these reviews are nice! especially to have different perspectives of the same demo. awesome! I think sometimes Leslie, and the Dorrances, are just so far beyond ost people it is hard to comprehend. I know it is for me. But I would try their stuff, skeptical, thinking yeah right, worked for them, but it aint gonna work for me, for my horse, he's too_____. but i have been so absolutely floored so many times. That Jaspar WOULD pick up a loose bit and seat it where he wants it. That Fox will actually follow a float in the lead. In fact he developed a trailer loading problem that was totally solved because I started him following the float in the lead and when he balked at the trailer entry I gave him the float and started over and he climbed right in. Some things she says are still way beyond my comprehension but I am gonna try em anyway :) hey what do you have to lose?? Janice
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