>>>> So, I wonder what other people feel, with other breeds, would we put a
horse down because they kicked someone? does it make any sense to try  and
further analyze the problem that is occuring? can these things possibly be
transformed? I know there maybe some cases of Icelandic's that are just too
tough, that really might be a mental defect, where is that line? how often
is this showing up?


I seriously doubt that "kicking" is a genetic mental defect.  I just don't
see that.


>From the Parellli website... http://www.parelli.com/content.faces click on
"Kicking" ...and I have to say, I tend to believe this:


>>> Horses kick for two reasons... they're afraid of you or they don't like
you! That's the big, distasteful truth! Fearful horses kick in defense,
dominant horses kick out of resentment and dominance. Either way, smacking
the horse for it doesn't work.   You need to get the horse to where he
trusts you, likes you, respects you... and none of that is achieved through
violence.   First of all, stay out of the kick zone. Second, learn to "read"
your horse's intent, they always give warning signs so you need to learn how
to recognize them. Thirdly, give your horse no reason to kick you.<<<

I started to leave this with simply posting the link, but I think this is
too big of an issue to leave unaddressed.   Maybe it's not always literally
'YOU' the horse doesn't like, but maybe someone prior has left a very bad
impression on that horse, such that he doesn't like humans.

Tivar half-heartedly cow-kicked once when he was here.  It was before we
treated him for his ulcers.  Maybe pain is another potential reason, in
addition to the ones Parelli listed.

Karen Thomas
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