I got permission from Flora Hillman to forward this to this list. There was 
a long thread on this subject - in fact, it seems that a majority of the 
list members are distance riders now, so treeless and endurance is a common 
topic on that busy list.  Another Virginia area endurance rider estimates 
that maybe 40% on the riders she encounters in NC, SC, VA, and GA are riding 
in treeless saddles.   That particular rider is a heavyweight.  From the 
pictures, I'd guess that Flora is not a heavy person.


Karen Thomas, NC


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "florahillman"
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:47 AM
Subject: [treelesssaddles] Re: I'm not a distance rider, so I'd like to hear 
some replies....


> Megan -
>
> I find that statement from your farrier very interesting....in that I 
> have never heard anyone complain about saddles "collapsing" or (stranger 
> yet) causing back muscle atrophy in a horse. ?????   I've actually seen 
> the reverse -- muscles coming back under a treeless after being atrophied 
> by a treed.
>
> Perhaps your farrier was referring to locally made saddles, or older 
> models that first came out?   When I got into Endurance 9 years ago, there 
> were only homemade designs, the BMSS, and the uber expensive Ansur 
> dressage. That was about it.
>
> I have since watched the quality/variety of *good* treeless saddles grow 
> to reach the point where they now stand toe-to-toe on scope and usage with 
> the good treed saddles. I was surprised to find quite a few endurance 
> riders (in my neck of the woods) have more than one or two treeless that 
> they use -- many have several of the same model. We constantly talk to one 
> another at rides about our saddles -- it is probably the most popular 
> topic of conversation at any endurance ride, outside of discussing the 
> trail and how to make your horse eat/drink at the check! -- so that should 
> say something for the popularity of the treeless saddle in this extreme 
> sport.
>
> Frankly, I have never met any endurance rider that ever went back to 
> treed.  Treed saddles are just too problematic.
>
> That said, I have more than once bent a sympathetic ear to the woes of 
> heavyweight endurance rider trying to find the right treeless that won't 
> cause a sore back in their horse -- however, they seem to have the same 
> woes with the treed as well. Not every treeless will  fit/support every 
> rider -- we all have our preferences.
>
> But muscle atrophy or "collapsing"?  Nope. Never. Sorry.
>
> Hope you enjoy your Barefoot!  It's a nice saddle. :-)
>
> Flora
>

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