I did not know this list was exclusively for natural horsemanship and thought 
it was for general discussion on all matters regarding icelandic horses.  I 
apologize if I have the wrong impression.
   
  As for Gudmar and Sigrun and mechanical aids, anything from a crop to a bit 
to how you balance your weight to overindulgence in horse treats can be abusive 
to the animal if used in a way that is not in the horse's best interests.  Both 
Sigrun and Gudmar train their riders to have very soft hands, use the seat and 
balance optimally and mostly to work on areas of stiffness in the horses back 
and head.  But as with any trainer, it is very important to understand the 
method and take away from it what works for you and develop your own style.  
You seem very firmly against their work Judy and I respect your point of view.  
But my experience with both of them has been that their training style is not 
harsh at all and is focussed on ensuring that the rider and the horse work well 
together.
      
  Many thanks,
   
  Susan

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