Hi Gail,
> The fundamental flaw of Natural Horsemanship (in my humble opionion) is 
> that it uses movement as punishment.

I think any form of training can be bad if the person using it doesn't 
understand what they are doing.   John Lyons often says in order to train 
the horse, you have to get him moving.    I've heard that sentiment from 
other guru's as well.   But that can be mis-interpreted and taken to 
extremes in the wrong hands, beyond what the clincian ever intended.    Just 
like I've seen supposed "Parelli people" circling their horses endlessly and 
monotonously.   I do not think this is what Parelli had in mind. . . . But 
there's someone out there saying what they are doing is "Parelli" and people 
watching will assume it is.

 >Once YOU are safe, classical training and gait training  for these guys is 
all they need.<

  Just a caveat here:   Beyond cues for which gait when, Icelandics, IF 
naturally gaited, do not need any training to gait.    I am hoping that is 
what you meant.    A lot of damage to a lot of horses (Tivar comes 
immediately to mind) has been done in the name of "gait training".

-- Renee M. in Michigan

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