On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 12:34 +0200, Michael Friedrich wrote: > On 15.06.2012 12:19, Linux IT Services Support wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > > > If I would have posted the question differently as if it was only my > > own interest, you would not have responded this way. It would not have > > changed the question though. > > > > I am not a developer, but I value open source solutions for business. > > Not so much for the fact that there are no license fees, but I think > > that the open development model will benefit us all. > > given the recent happenings, i am not very keen on mixing models here. > feel free to use icinga for whatever you want, but do not expect me to > be the "bitch" for your customers. probably you don't do that by > intention, but it's just my interpretation. > > you're not alone, there are many people out there, acting the same, not > understanding my opinion on that. > > > > > I am a bit sad to hear that business use of Icinga is not of interest > > to you. > > don't be sad, business and money fucks up projects. note the "open core" > models competitors in the montioring world are currently building. > > i prefer being icinga a fun project, getting the best out of it for my > work demands, but not selling that to anyone else. if i would earn money > out of icinga, i would see myself changing in the way handling user > requests and ideas. that's not what i want with the project's direction, > leading the way partly. > > best thing - meet new people, make friends, have beers together. things > you can't buy with money.
Did i hear beers?! Yes, yes, me wants! I'd be more then happy to go in-depth about this topic with you Michael while drinking beers. This must be organized! Regards, D. PS: Sorry for the totally off-topic stuff, it's #FF :-). > > kind regards, > michael > > > > > Still I want to express my respect to you, that you dedicate your time > > and talent to create an open product like Icinga. > > > > We just have different opinions. > > > > Regards, > > > > Hans Feringa > > > > > > On 15-06-12 12:04, Michael Friedrich wrote: > >> On 15.06.2012 11:56, Linux IT Services Support wrote: > >>> Hi Michael, > >>> > >>> I had a different perception. Because questions and problems for me > >>> are always related to real life problems, not for my test network > >>> and hobby. > >> > >> going here and telling about your customer demands leads to the > >> assumption that you are not capable of doing that yourself for your > >> customer, instead hoping that icinga users and developers will > >> resolve your problem. > >> > >> i'm not interested in any business relations with icinga, but a > >> growing community in oss. business demands mixed up in this area > >> normally fucks up the demands and views on things. > >> > >> so don't get me wrong, but i for myself will deny to help people > >> telling me about their customers business problems. > >> > >> kind regards, > >> michael > >> > >> > >>> I had the impression that I could ask these questions on this list. > >>> I guess I was wrong. I apologize for it, and will direct my > >>> questions elsewhere. > >>> > >>> thanks, > >>> > >>> Hans Feringa > >>> > >>> On 15-06-12 11:23, Michael Friedrich wrote: > >>>> On 15.06.2012 09:51, Linux IT Services Support wrote: > >>>>> I have a customer that wants the following: > >>>> just a personal remark - we are an open source community, we are > >>>> talking > >>>> together in case of questions and problems. i for myself do this > >>>> for the > >>>> fun and joy and not with any customer relationship in mind in order to > >>>> earn money. so stepping here and telling about customers wanting this > >>>> and that does not make me happy (and i bet others are a bit > >>>> irritated as > >>>> well). > >>>> > >>>> jm2c, > >>>> michael > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> He has 3 layers of hostgroups > >>>>> > >>>>> segmentXX-hg (host members on a segment, no hostgroup_members) > >>>>> buildingYY-hg (hostgroup_members are hostgroup segmentXX-hg, no host > >>>>> members) > >>>>> regionZZ-hg (hostgroup_members are hostgroup buildingYY-hg, no > >>>>> host members) > >>>>> > >>>>> There are multiple segmentXX-hg hostgroup_members in a buildingYY-hg. > >>>>> There are multiple buildingYY-hg hostgroup_members in a regionZZ-hg. > >>>>> > >>>>> On the web-gui he wants to be able to monitor the top-level > >>>>> hostgroups > >>>>> (regionZZ-hg). When a problem is indicated in the most top-level > >>>>> (region), he wants to be able to drill down to the next level > >>>>> (building) > >>>>> to see where the problem is located and only when he needs to see the > >>>>> failing host's details he wants to go to the host status view in the > >>>>> segment level. > >>>>> > >>>>> What is configured now, is that when you select the toplevel > >>>>> hostgroup(region), you get immediately the host status view of all > >>>>> the > >>>>> hosts that ultimately belong to the the toplevel hostgroup > >>>>> (regionZZ-hg). > >>>>> > >>>>> Is this something that is at all supported by Icinga and if it is, > >>>>> how > >>>>> can it be configured (both icinga-web and classical ui)? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Hans Feringa > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Live Security Virtual Conference > >>>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > >>>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. > >>>>> Discussions > >>>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in > >>>>> malware > >>>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> icinga-users mailing list > >>>>> icinga-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/icinga-users > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > -- David Gerbec, sistemska podpora Predlog! 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