oh iya ya... kalo transaksi paypal di luar ebay emang lebih murah karena seller ga harus bayar fee ke ebay (ga apal, tapi lumayan juga). si bos cideng kayaknya pernah cerita ke saya kalo punya masalah yang mirip2. moral of the story: mahal dikit gpp deh yg penting ada garansi dari ebay.
thanks dave 2012/11/7 Alvin Kurniawan <[email protected]> > sepertinya diluar ebay kok om Dave, jadi ada feedback atau tidak juga > tidak efek di seller nya. > > > 2012/11/7 Dave Seta <[email protected]> > >> untuk jaga-jaga urusan beginian, biasanya feedback saya withhold sampai >> barangnya sampai. kalau ada dispute dan pastinya barang sampai di indo >> lebih dari 14 hari, saya biasanya paling banter minta partial refund. yah, >> mau gimana lagi, ngirim balik barang juga mahal... >> >> thanks >> dave >> >> 2012/11/6 Ipurnomo2000 <[email protected]> >> >>> Paling males lg kalo seller US mau refund syaratnya unit >>> dikembaliin...capek deh...ongkir balik nya bisa $100an...kantor pos nggak >>> nerima kalo kirim2 hp... >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 6 Nov 2012, at 12:39, "Dedi Sopian" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Dari amrik bro indra >>> > Sol >>> > Sent from my BlackBerry® via Smart 1x / EVDO Network. >>> Smart.Hebat.Hemat. >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Indra <[email protected]> >>> > Sender: [email protected] >>> > Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:29:40 >>> > To: <[email protected]> >>> > Reply-To: [email protected] >>> > Subject: Re: [id-android] WTA: Claim paypal ditolak, disuruh bikin >>> surat dari >>> > kepolisian atau kantor pos buat surat pernyataan >>> > >>> > Boleh tahu, barangnya asal mana? >>> > Dan barang apa? >>> > Kalau supply-nya dari China, mungkin saya bisa bantuin, karena saya >>> > cukup banyak tahu supplier yang reliable di China. >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > Indra >>> > >>> > On 11/6/2012 0:09 AM, Dedi Sopian wrote: >>> >> sebenarnya langganan tapi belakangan dia sering bikin ulah seperti >>> >> menunda-nunda pengiriman atau mencancel invoice yang sudah dibayar, oh >>> >> iya bukan transaksi via ebay atau website tapi kenalan gitu karena >>> >> dulu pernah belanja via ebay karena dia pernah jualan disana. Mungkin >>> >> saran om iwan akan saya jalanin dengan membuat surat sendiri dan minta >>> >> stempel orang pos buat legalitasnya. Dulu juga pernah sih barang >>> >> hilang tapi karena dibuka dibea cukai jadi langsung dibuatkan surat >>> >> dibea cukai mengenai kiriman yang isinya kosong. >>> >> >>> >> On 11/5/12, Iwan Robotijo<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Om transaksinya di web eBay ato di web lain yg pmbyrnnya menggunakan >>> >>> paypal? >>> >>> >>> >>> Jika transaksinya di eBay seharusnya tdk serumit itu.. Krn mmg ada >>> buyer >>> >>> protection jadi claim agak mudah. >>> >>> >>> >>> Nah jika di website lain, mmg agak rumit... Sebaiknya ke kantor pos >>> aja yg >>> >>> lebih enak. Lbh enak jika ada kenalan org dalam pos...cukup minta >>> stempel >>> >>> aza, td tangan yg berwenang itu "gampang" >>> >>> >>> >>> Mungkin draft suratnya bisa kita yg buat, dan diserahkan ke org >>> pos...tapi >>> >>> sblmnya kita jelaskan dulu masalahnya apa.dan perlu diperhatikan >>> suratnya >>> >>> dibuat bilingual dlm agar pihak paypal dapat membaca dan memeriksa >>> keaslian >>> >>> kop surat dan stempel. >>> >>> >>> >>> Mgkn itu aja. >>> >>> Thx, >>> >>> >>> >>> Iwan >>> >>> 08170002442 >>> >>> 08818002342 >>> >>> >>> >>> Dikirim via Monaco "Nyambuung teruuss..!!" >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From: Dedi Sopian<[email protected]> >>> >>> Sender: [email protected] >>> >>> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 23:34:39 >>> >>> To: id-android<[email protected]> >>> >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> >>> Subject: [id-android] WTA: Claim paypal ditolak, disuruh bikin surat >>> dari >>> >>> kepolisian atau kantor pos buat surat pernyataan >>> >>> >>> >>> langsung aj ke pembicaraan terakhir dengan paypal customer service >>> >>> mengenai kasus yang sedang dihadapi. >>> >>> Ceritanya saya buka kasus karena seller tidak kirim barang dan tidak >>> >>> kasih tracking selama sebulan lalu setelah buka kasus seminggu >>> >>> kemudian saya claim buat refund tapi ditolak dengan alesan seller >>> >>> ngasih tracking. Dan setelah di cek traking itu untuk pembelian yang >>> >>> lain dari seller itu juga dan memang sudah diterima tapi bukan untuk >>> >>> barang yang pembayarannya sedang saya claim (beda transaksi). >>> >>> >>> >>> " >>> >>> Hello Dedi Sopian, >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you for contacting PayPal Customer Support. My name is >>> Halimah and >>> >>> I am glad to assist you regards to the claim ID# PP-002-050-442-312. >>> >>> >>> >>> I understand that the item is not wrong, but the tracking number and >>> >>> item received is for a different transaction with amount $185.00. >>> >>> However, since this case is open for this $400 USD payment and you >>> >>> receive item with tracking which doesn’t match the order for >>> $400.00. >>> >>> >>> >>> Our process will consider the item you received for $400 payment is >>> >>> totally wrong. Hence to appeal this case as a wrong item, we >>> require the >>> >>> document mentioned by my previous colleague Fareen. Either police >>> >>> document or post office document that indicates your situation along >>> >>> side with PayPal case number, invoice ID, description on the wrong >>> >>> tracking and item you received. This will help us to fight back >>> with the >>> >>> seller on behalf of you. >>> >>> >>> >>> We appreciate your patient and understanding. We seek your >>> cooperation >>> >>> on this matter. Look forward to hear from you on the document hence >>> >>> appeal steps can be done. >>> >>> >>> >>> It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing PayPal. Your >>> >>> satisfaction is important to us. 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