Ya kalo di jkt emang bagus banget, bahkan di rumah saya odin 9550 dipakein smart manteng trus signalnya di 3G / Evdo. *cuma berhubung anak jalanan yaa gitu deh ( dibawa ke pantura dikit aja evdonya jedak jeduk dan kadang2 ga ada signal sama sekali )
On 6/6/10, marcel aditya <marceldr...@gmail.com> wrote: > So far menurut saya kalo di jakarta justru bagusan di cdma daripada gsm. > Mungkin karena gsm udah kepenuhan kali yah. Sepanjang saya pake droid > jaringan baru down 2x dan sangat stabil . Wkt pake gsm sering naek turun. > Kalo di luar kota? Ampun dj. Qkqkqkqk > sent from jave....just normal jave.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andre Sulistian <frozen.photogr...@gmail.com> > Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:29:50 > To: <id-android@googlegroups.com> > Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [id-android] WTI: Droid Incredible Review > > Mungkin di US verizon no 1, tapi kalo disini jangan dulu berharap > jangkauan jaringan sm*rt akan sebagus telkomsel. Hiks selalu aja > kendala di jangkauan *ini alasan saya milih miley dibanding droid > walau bootloader terkunci > > > On 6/6/10, ayip s <ayip.mi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Nice review, mata dan otak agak kram n juling baca review yang panjangnya >> kayak marathon (+ dobel 2 paragraf) :p >> >> Jadi pengen Incredible :) >> >> On Jun 6, 2010 6:32 AM, "Agus Hamonangan" <id.andr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On the paper, the Droid Incredible doesn't look that much different >> from its cousin, the Google Nexus One. In fact, they do have a lot in >> common, even if the Droid Incredible is obviously slightly more >> advanced (see table) and also runs on what many call "the best >> cellular network in the U.S": Verizon. The Droid Incredible also comes >> with HTC Sense, a series fine-tuned Android OS additions that make the >> phone more usable. Wireless carriers aside, most people ask me: >> "should I get the Incredible or the Nexus One?". My definitive answer >> is: The HTC Incredible. In this review, I'll tell you how I have used >> it and why I think that it is better than the Nexus One. Ready? >> >> Context: We all use our phones differently, so it's important that I >> tell you where I come from: I have been using the Droid Incredible for >> a couple of weeks as my main phone. I typically check my email often >> with Exchange, and I reply moderately because the virtual keyboard is >> not as productive as a physical one. I browse the web several times a >> day to check on news sites, but I rarely watch movies or play music. I >> don't call much - maybe 10mn a day. This usage pattern will affect >> battery life and the perception of what features are useful. >> >> Technical Highlights >> >> Droid Incredible >> >> Android 2.1 + HTC Sense >> 3.7" AMOLED 480x800 >> Qualcomm 8650 SnapDragon, 1Ghz >> 512MB RAM >> 8GB of internal storage + microSD slot >> 8 Megapixel camera >> Wifi b/g, BT 2.1+EDR, aGPS >> FM Radio >> TV Out (microUSB) >> Carrier: Verizon, 3G speeds >> 4.6 x 2.3 x 0.47", 4.6oz >> 1300mAh battery >> >> >> Google Nexus One >> >> Android 2.1 >> 3.7" AMOLED 480x800 >> Qualcomm 8250 SnapDragon, 1Ghz >> 512MB RAM >> 4GB microSD card >> 5 Megapixel camera >> Wifi b/g, BT 2.1+EDR, aGPS >> No Radio >> No TV Out >> AT&T, T-Mobile >> 4.7 x 2.4 x 0.5", 4.5oz >> 1400mAh battery >> >> >> There are a few notable differences with the Nexus One: The Droid >> Incredible has 8GB of internal memory (+ one MicroSD slot on the >> side), while the Nexus has only the MicroSD slot with a 4GB microSD >> card by default. Secondly, the Nexus One has a 5 Megapixel camera >> instead of the 8MP of the Incredible. The Incredible has a dual-LED >> flash, versus a the single-LED flash of the N1. The Nexus one has a >> slightly better battery (1400mAh), but you will see later that sheer >> battery capacity doesn't define battery life. >> Physical Design (Very Good) >> >> >> >> Body: the design of the Droid Incredible is slick by most people's >> standards, and I certainly like it myself. The backplate design might >> be more controversial, but while it is not my favorite backplate, I'm >> OK with it. I'll let you decide for yourself after looking at our >> photo gallery. The more important part is that the build quality is >> good, and the phone feels solid. >> >> Display: The Droid Incredible's display is very similar to the Nexus >> One display (for good and bad). Both use AMOLED technology, and while >> the actual screen size may vary just a little, both provide the same >> feel and experience. It is narrower than the iPhone - not by a lot, >> but just enough to induce more typos when using the virtual keyboard, >> in my opinion. The colors seem more saturated than they should, but >> that's kind of how AMOLED is... I would certainly not use this an an >> example of color accuracy, but I like the high contrast, and how the >> colors "pop". The thing that I don't like with AMOLED display is how >> unreadable they get when it's bright outside. I guess that this is the >> downside of living in California, but this is probably the most >> annoying thing on this phone. >> >> >> >> >> Body: the design of the Droid Incredible is slick by most people's >> standards, and I certainly like it myself. The backplate design might >> be more controversial, but while it is not my favorite backplate, I'm >> OK with it. I'll let you decide for yourself after looking at our >> photo gallery. The more important part is that the build quality is >> good, and the phone feels solid. >> >> Display: The Droid Incredible's display is very similar to the Nexus >> One display (for good and bad). Both use AMOLED technology, and while >> the actual screen size may vary just a little, both provide the same >> feel and experience. It is narrower than the iPhone - not by a lot, >> but just enough to induce more typos when using the virtual keyboard, >> in my opinion. The colors seem more saturated than they should, but >> that's kind of how AMOLED is... I would certainly not use this an an >> example of color accuracy, but I like the high contrast, and how the >> colors "pop". The thing that I don't like with AMOLED display is how >> unreadable they get when it's bright outside. I guess that this is the >> downside of living in California, but this is probably the most >> annoying thing on this phone. >> >> >> Optical trackpad: I'm sure that I don't use the trackpad to its full >> potential, but it is honestly not very useful. I really need it only >> when I try to move the cursor within a word, and this does not happen >> very often. Just to give you a reference, I think that this trackpad >> is not as nice to use as the Blackberry Bold 9700 trackpad. >> >> UI buttons: the four buttons at the bottom of the phones are much more >> sensitive than on the Nexus One, and I'm glad that HTC improved this >> aspect because the N1 was a little annoying for that. The quick search >> button will open a universal search that will scan you contacts, >> shortcuts, bookmarks and so on... it also gives you an option to >> extend the search to the web. For web searches, I have installed a >> Google Search widget. >> Basics >> >> >> Dial a number: Just like other Android phones, dialing a number on the >> Incredible is very easy. HTC Sense makes it even a little more >> convenient: for example, HTC made the dialer a little smaller so that >> you can see (and click!) the few last numbers called. Accessing the >> full list of contacts or favorites is also simple. >> >> Wireless reception: Overall, the Verizon network is the one that has >> the best reputation in the U.S, however you should remember that >> reception quality is mostly a matter of where YOU are. Do your >> homework, and ask your friend what their reception is. It might very >> well be that another carrier will have a cell tower nearby your home >> or office. I remember that a recent study has shown that Verizon >> dropped less calls than AT&T. >> >> >> Audio quality: during calls, the sound is clear and loud (louder than >> my BB 9700), so I'm satisfied with this. It should be loud enough to >> hear distinctly in a busy restaurant. >> >> >> Virtual Keyboard (Busy): HTC Sense provides a keyboard that is >> different from the original Android one. First of all, it as a comma >> key at the bottom and you can see what the alternate characters are >> (1,2,3... and special characters). If you press and hold a key, the >> alternate key will be used. By doing this, you don't have to switch to >> the alternate view of the keyboard. This could be a time saver, but >> the "hold" time is a little too long at about 2 seconds - it needs to >> be set to 1 second to really save time. I would like to have more >> control over the keyboard. I find this one to be too (visualy) busy >> for my taste. >> >> >> Copy/Paste (works!): Most reviews don't mention this, but the >> Copy/Paste actually works very well on the Droid Incredible (yay!), >> including in non-editable zones, which is like... 97.66% of the time >> when you need a copy/paste. Copy/Paste works like it does with the >> iPhone: click and hold something and a set of delimiters will appear. >> Drag the delimiters to change the selection, then copy, and voila. >> Thank you HTC. >> >> >> Web Browsing (Excellent): As it is the case with recent Android >> phones, the web browsing experience is excellent. Web browsing is >> fast, and the superb screen resolution makes the iPhone 3GS seem >> blurry. If you have a good sight, the extra resolution will let you >> see more text at once, therefore reducing the need to scroll and zoom >> - I love it. >> >> If you do need to zoom and scroll, HTC has added the most coveted >> pinch & zoom support, which was missing from most Android devices in >> the U.S, including the N1. Just like on the iPhone and the Pre, you >> can now zoom easily and intuitively. There's one difference though: >> this browser will reformat the text each time you zoom. While this >> makes text reading better, it also displaces web page elements in >> unexpected ways. >> >> >> Flash: Flash Lite is supported, but in practice, it didn't help me >> that much. The stuff that I really care about (Hulu, for example) did >> not work, but a few banner ads and games (too slow to play) did >> work... I think that we will need full Flash 10.1 support with great >> performance (I insist on this point) before the whole Flash thing >> starts to make a difference. >> >> Google docs: Google docs is still in read-only mode, which means that >> we're only half of the way there. Not that I would *like* to edit a >> spreadsheet from the small display with the small keyboard, but I >> would like to have the option of doing it (this is true for most >> Smartphones btw. The Nokia N900 does work with Google Docs). There's a >> big demand for the editing functions, so I thought that you should >> know. >> Email / Accounts Sync >> >> >> The email experience is pretty good, but I'll repeat myself (from a >> prior review) that this is nowhere near the level of productivity that >> a BlackBerry would reach. From getting to the top of the email list >> (press "t" in the BB), to initiating a reply (press "r") with a >> keyboard shortcut to finally typing the actual text, I would say that >> the Blackberry (9700) makes me twice as fast to answer emails. Also, >> the Blackberry has a custom dictionary that you can use to expand >> acronyms into full blocks of text. For example, if I type "addr" [then >> space], it expands to my full address - you can't beat that. >> >> In my Nexus One review, I complained about the lack of email search. >> If you use the universal search (tap the search button at the >> bottom-right of the phone), you can search everything in the phone, >> including apps, shortcuts, contacts, and... emails. This is clearly >> much better than nothing, but I would have loved a Mail Search. Note >> that the GMail client has a search feature that works well. I'm >> talking about the Mail client for Exchange and POP/IMAP accounts here >> (POP and IMAP are supported by virtually all email providers). >> >> USB Sync: I happen to sync my email via the 3G connection, but many >> people would still like to sync with their computer Email with a USB >> cable. HTC has made it possible to sync contacts and the calendar sync >> over USB (kudos to them), but there's no Email sync from Outlook or >> Outlook Express. I did not see any Mac support for contact sync. >> >> Push-email: You can setup Android to deliver emails "as they arrive" >> to get true "push email". I tried with Exchange and GMail, but not >> with POP. This is great because you can engage in IM-like email thread >> (for better or worse), without "refreshing" the mailbox all the time >> >> >> Accounts Sync: You can add all kinds of accounts like Exchange, >> Facebook, Flickr, Google and Twitter and synchronize content on a >> regular basis. With Facebook for HTC Sense, you can't sync Facebook >> faster than once every hour unless you do it manually. I suspect that >> this is true for other services as well. Frequent manual refreshes >> could deplete the battery faster than you would want. >> Computer Sync >> >> Upon connecting with USB, the Droid Incredible will appear as a USB >> drive in your OS. Simultaneously, the phone will ask if you just want >> to charge (no data connection), Sync Contacts+Calendar (Windows only), >> Mount as a USB drive or share the phone's internet connection with the >> computer. This is pretty basic, but sufficient for most users. Under >> Windows, you can optionally import photos and videos the same way you >> would from a camera or a memory card - this is familiar territory. >> There's no iTunes equivalent to manage the phone - for better or >> worse. Personally, I really like the simplicity of the USB >> connectivity but sometimes it's easier to manage things from a >> computer because it's more comfy. >> Tethering >> >> >> Out of the box, the Droid Incredible has a tethering option that I was >> eager to try. Well, it didn't quite work "out of the box"... I >> installed HTC Sync and connected via a USB cable, chose the tethering >> option, after after which the computer tried to install the Modem >> drivers... and failed. A quick search revealed that others are >> experiencing the same issues. So I decided to try PDANet, a 3rd party >> solution that uses the USB Debug Mode to communicate data back and >> forth between the Droid and the computer. This seems like a workaround >> that would work with every carrier. Anyway, after installing following >> the PDANet and installing a client on my Win7 laptop, I was connected >> via the 3G connection. With 2/4 bars, the phone managed to get a >> 1.8Mbps/0.73Mbps connection, according to Speakeasy.net, that's not >> bad at all. >> >> >> Photos: images captured with the 8 Megapixel camera look good and rank >> surely among the best that we've seen in recent months, but the >> internal image processing software has been tuned to "sharpen" the >> images a little too much in my opinion. There's also visible noise and >> small details like leaves are sometimes blurred out by the image >> compression. In relatively good lighting conditions, the colors are >> quite natural, which is a plus - the Nexus One was not as skillful. >> Despite being a very good mobile phone camera, it won't surpass a >> pocket digicam - that was to be expected. In darker conditions, it's a >> bit more difficult, but there's a 2-LED flash (that works best from >> 1.5 yards away). Just take a look at our Droid Incredible photo & >> video samples on Flickr, they will speak for themselves. >> >> >> Video: I'm pretty happy with the video quality of this phone. The >> camcorder app can record videos at 800x480 (24fps, 2000kbps) and >> 640x480 (30fps). Lower resolutions like 320x240 are also supported, >> but unless you're running out storage, there's no point in using the >> small resolutions. 640x480 is my personal favorite as I prefer faster >> framerate over sheer resolution, but both work very well. I recommend >> avoiding fast panning motions because that might make the video a >> little choppy. Check out our Droid Incredible video samples on Flickr. >> Performance >> As benchmarked by Linpack, the raw performance is the same than what >> we're getting on the Nexus One, so there's no surprise on that front. >> Android 2.2 will bring a 5X theoretical performance jump, because apps >> will be compiled to native code, thanks to the Just-In-Time (JIT) >> compiler that turns Java code into native code. >> >> >> User Interface performance: on the "perceived performance" front, the >> user interface is fast. Android phones have made steady progress and >> went from relatively slow to fairly fast in less than a year. If >> you're a little picky (like I am), you will notice that the UI >> elements are still not as fluid as the iPhone 3GS or the Zune HD. I >> still think that this is a structural software issue with Android, one >> that has not been addressed in Android 2.2, yet. >> >> Gaming performance: At the moment, gaming performance is pretty much >> in-line with what you can get on the Nexus One. It's good, but it >> could be (and will be) even better with Android 2.2. Let's hope that >> HTC will come up with the Droid Incredible 2.2 Update quickly. Look at >> the video to see what the Droid Incredible can do. >> >> >> Boot time: if you're curious, the Droid Incredible boots in 37 seconds >> from black screen to "being usable". >> Multitasking (Excellent) >> >> >> We all know it, Android is a good multitasker, but you will need to >> keep an eye on what's running in the background to avoid taxing the >> resources (cycles, battery) too much. I still recommend using a Task >> Killer application, and preferably one that lets you kill all >> non-essential apps in one click via a shortcut. You can also set it to >> automatically terminate applications every x minutes/hours, just to >> make sure that you don't forget. Even though Android has (in theory) >> been getting better at minimizing the impact of background tasks on >> the battery, I found the Task Killer to be useful - oh and it's free >> too. >> HTC Sense >> >> While the Nexus One is running on a standard Android build, the >> Incredible benefits from HTC Sense, an improved user interface (UI) >> that builds upon Android. There are a ton of improvements, and my >> favorites are the calendar, flash support in the browser, status >> updates and the homepage "leap" (seeing all seven home screens at >> once). These simple things make your life a little easier. I don't >> think that I should dedicate a whole section of this review to it, but >> if you want to know more, head to this article form Android Central. >> Honestly, I would rather see Google improving the Android UI for all, >> instead of having HTC do it only for HTC devices. >> Entertainment >> >> >> Photos gallery (Getting better): the photo gallery app is simple and >> classic. You can scroll over a film roll that displays 3 photos at >> once, or zoom in and view photos one by one. You can even crop the >> photos if you want, although I never have the urge to do it. From the >> gallery, it is very easy to share a photo via email, social networks >> or Bluetooth. Overall, the gallery works so much better than phones >> that came out just 6 months ago. It's faster, but still lags behind >> the Zune HD and the 3GS. We're getting close... >> >> Music (No search?): The plain-vanilla Android comes with a decent >> music player, and I usually don't have much to say about other than >> "it works". The HTC variant is equally functional, except in one way: >> I did not find a text search function - this is a pain in the neck if >> you have a lot of songs. I tried to use the unified search, but no >> music results came out. >> >> Audio quality (Good): Overall, the external speaker quality is good. >> It is plenty loud and you can definitely watch a clip, or listen to >> music very decently. If you crank the volume level past 80%, the sound >> starts to be distorted. >> >> YouTube Videos (Very good): YouTube video worked really well over 3G, >> despite that fact that I have only 2/4 bars when sitting at my desk. >> No particular complaint there. Make sure that you use the high-quality >> video (in the menu). By default, my YouTube app was to the low >> quality. >> >> >> MP4 Videos: Videos played locally on the Droid Incredible can be >> extremely sharp and fast. I have created a 2.5Mbps movie (AVC, >> 720x480, 30fps, stereo 48Khz) and the phone was able to play it back >> perfectly. May be I could have cranked up the bitrate, but this was >> more than enough. On the other hand, PSP-friendly .mp4 files that I >> used with other Android phones did not work on this one. That's a >> bummer because some people out there might have build and converted a >> ton of movies to fit their phones. I also tried to play a 720p 8Mbps >> movie, and that one froze my phone. >> >> >> Skype: Verizon has the best Skype integration on Android (The Nokia >> N900's is great too), so it's quite a perk to be able to leave Skype >> in the background and place/receive calls with it. Remember that >> SkypeOut calls will use your minutes because they don't go through 3G, >> but call a special number instead. This means no voice-over-IP from a >> hotspot, or from abroad. Too bad... >> Battery Life (Excellent) >> >> >> Overall, the Droid Incredible has the best battery life of all the >> Android devices that I have had in my hands recently, and that >> includes the HTC EVO 4G, if you are curious. The Nexus One and most of >> the others could barely survive 24hrs, even with a moderate usage, but >> the Droid Incredible survived way into the second day (see how I use >> it in the "Context" paragraph at the beginning). This is huge because >> this means that I can forget to charge it overnight. I'm not sure why >> this is, but I suspect that the idle power management (sleep mode) is >> simply better. What I don't understand is why the EVO 4G, which runs a >> similar software (if not more recent), does not pass the 24hrs >> barrier. (note that I use a Task Killer on all Android phones. This is >> often very useful to cut down power consumption) >> >> Battery utility: if you want to know what app is sucking out all the >> power, use the battery utility. It will show you which app/process >> consumes power and this knowledge will help you save power. Go to >> Settings>>About Phone>> Battery>>Battery use (see photo above). >> >> User-replaceable: The battery is user-replaceable if you feel like >> buying some more, but I found the backplate to be much harder to open >> than on the Nexus One for instance. No biggie, but if you change >> batteries often, it might be annoying. I think that most users feel >> better to know that they can change a dead battery themselves, not >> that it actually happens that much. >> >> Camera is incredibly taxing: After a week or so, I realized by >> accident that the camera was the most battery-taxing of all (at least >> that I know of). If you use the camera for 3-5mn, it will quickly jump >> to be the most power-hungry app in the battery utility. Good to know! >> >> Power Management Widgets: I found the power management widget to be >> very useful because it shows you right away if high-powered stuff like >> 3G, WIFI and GPS are ON or OFF, it puts you in (complete but manual) >> control of the power management. Of course, a better alternative might >> be to make things smarter so that they turn completely OFF and ON when >> needed, but in the meantime, it's handy. I highly recommend it. >> Things that could be better >> >> Narrow design: just like many HTC designs, I find the Droid Incredible >> to be very pocketable, but at the expense of typing accuracy with the >> virtual keyboard. A careful examination of the virtual keyboard >> reveals that it is only slightly narrower than the iPhone's but that >> small difference makes a noticeable difference in typing linpack. >> Fortunately, HTC also has larger phones like the EVO 4G, which is much >> more comfy to type on. >> >> No Data during calls: This has to do with the CDMA wireless technology >> used by Verizon (and Sprint): it simply can't do voice and data at the >> same time. For example, you can't be on the phone and go do a web >> search (the browser won't be able to connect). That sounds really >> annoying, but in the real world, it has never been an issue for me. I >> did try it and I can confirm that this is true, and I think that you >> should know. It seems that Sprint's Wimax (4G) doesn't suffer from >> this and Verizon's upcoming LTE (4G) might not either. >> >> No UMA: Verizon's network has worked very well during this test, but >> wouldn't it be nice if they were supporting UMA as well? With UMA, we >> would be able to connect to the Verizon network over WIFI. That would >> be a boon for customers living on the edge of the network. It would >> also offer a small solution to those who travel abroad. They would be >> able to get some coverage indoors. >> >> No International service: I just mentioned the international traveler, >> so you've been warned: outside of the US, this phone won't work. >> >> >> Landscape mode doesn't work at 90 degrees CW: This is very mild, but >> the landscape mode doesn't work consistently. The screen will rotate >> only counter clock-wise (CCW) and it will do so only in specific apps. >> Conclusion >> >> The Droid Incredible is an excellent phone that demonstrates Android >> at its best, and reveals HTC's mastery at releasing high-quality >> phones litterally faster than we can test them. I can't wait for the >> Android 2.2 update. Because I found the battery to be better and the >> screen and the tactile buttons to be more responsive, I can warmly >> recommend the Incredible over the Nexus One. The Verizon Network >> worked beautifully for me, even though I never had 4/4 bars in and >> around the office. No dropped calls, no sluggish web traffic. The only >> sacrifice, that I'm not quite yet ready to make is to abandon a >> SIM-card based phone because I travel a lot outside the U.S and it is >> just very handy to keep the same phone and pop a local SIM card in. >> What's yout take on the Droid Incredible? Do you have more questions, >> remarks? Drop a comment below. >> Links >> >> Do not miss these reviews: Macbook Pro Review, iPad Review, iPhone 3GS >> Review, Sprint Overdrive WiMax Modem, Blackberry 9700 Review, Palm >> Pixi Review, Motorola Droid Review,Nokia N900 Review, HTC Hero Review, >> MyTouch 3G Review/HTC Magic, Nokia N97 Review >> >> Droid Incredible Photo Gallery, Droid Incredible Photo Samples >> (700px-wide)Droid Incredible photo samples on Flickr (native >> resolution), Images from this page, in higher resolution >> >> Droid Incredible homepage at HTC, Verizon. 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