Saya barusan udah baca tapi skrg lagi kurang mood kasih komentar, ada yang mau berbaik hati berkomentar duluan? BTW, ini bisa jadi posting senada sbg kelanjutan yang pernah steven post dulu ke id-perl:
http://www.oreillynet.com/ruby/blog/2007/09/rubyforge_vs_cpan.html It’s often been said that Perl’s greatest strength is CPAN, Perl’s vast collection of free libraries contributed by developers from around the world. Recently I started to wonder about RubyForge and how RubyForge stacks up against CPAN in general.1 First, length of service. CPAN has been around for 12 years (October 1995). RubyForge has been in existence for just over 4 years (July, 2003). Second, the number of users. RubyForge boasts over 20,300 users. CPAN, on the other hand, has far less at just over 6,150 registered users.2 Not every registered user is associated with a project, however. There are 3635 users are associated with a project on RubyForge, while on CPAN there are 3774 users associated with at least one library. Of the 3635 users on RubyForge, 849 are associated with more than one project.3 Third, the number of libraries. CPAN boasts approximately 13,500 separate libraries. RubyForge currently has approximately 5000 separate libraries, organized into about 4800 projects. That means, on average, most projects have one library, but some have multiple libraries per project.4 While RubyForge has far fewer libaries than CPAN, the ratio isn’t nearly as large as I would have thought. Quick aside. I didn’t do any real analysis against Python, but the home page for the Vaults of Parnassus shows 2025 libraries. Fourth, library quality and usefulness (more subjective here). There’s a lot of overlap and, well, cruft on CPAN.5 There are over 300 Acme (joke) modules. There are multiple wrappers for the same underlying library, such as many of the “Tiny” and “Simple” modules. There are libraries that should have been bundled together but weren’t, such as the various Chemistry::PointGroup libs. There are also libraries that have similar or identical functionality to other libraries, such as many of the List and/or Array libraries. On top of that, a healthy chunk of the Perl libraries on CPAN are either unnecessary in Ruby or contain behavior that’s already baked into Ruby itself. Examples include a large collection of OO modules (Class::Accessors and the like), a large number of modules that create various IO, Number, File, Array, String and Hash classes, and related methods, that Ruby has builtin (Array, Array::List, File::chmod, and so on), over 200 “Tie” modules (Ruby doesn’t need ‘tie’), over 90 libraries for interacting with CPAN or the RT backend itself (I only know of one library for RubyForge), and equivalent libraries that are already part of Ruby’s standard library (e.g. libwww). Last, release frequency. Between August 14th and September 14th there were 1133 releases from 690 distinct libraries on CPAN 6. RubyForge, by contrast, had 612 releases in the same date range (although I wasn’t sure how many of them were from distinct libraries at the time of this writing). So, slightly less than half of CPAN at the moment. What do all these numbers mean? Good question. I think, at the very least, it means that the Ruby community is doing very well in terms of library development and releases. I give Tom Copeland a huge amount of credit for that, in that I think the very act of creating RubyForge fostered an atmosphere of development (collaborative or otherwise) and inspired programmers new to Ruby to take the step of releasing their own software. I can’t prove it, of course. It’s just a gut feeling I have after watching the Ruby community grow for seven years. It also means that Perl is still going strong, cruft and all. You can’t really argue too much with their release rate, and some of it is really good stuff, too. I would say that CPAN still has the edge in database interfaces, Apache libraries and wrappers for 3rd party commercial libraries, among a few other things.[7] But, we’re catching up, and fast. :) See you next Wednesday.[8] 1 When I say “CPAN”, I’m generally referring to search.cpan.org plus RT. 2 I scraped the Authors pages to get the total. At the time of this writing it was 6152, although a handful of these appear to be generic logins. 3 CPAN isn’t a collaborative development environment, so there may be multiple users actively associated with a given library, but there’s no way to tell without manually digging through files. 4This number does not include a number of libraries listed on the RAA that are not on RubyForge. I’d make a very rough guess of about 200. Hard numbers welcome. 5 I should know. I own some of the cruft. 6 There were anywhere from 1 to 10 releases per library in that period. Some had multiple releases in the same day, a curious trend on CPAN. 7 Port a Perl module today! I should mention that I didn’t do any very long term trending, so I guess it’s possible that the releases per month have dropped, but I somehow doubt it. Feel free to prove me wrong (or right). 8 Many thanks go to Tom Copeland for providing me with the RubyForge statistics. @steve, 1 contoh, gw pas coba liat dan perhatikan di perl mau cari-cari fitur standar library semacam Ruby Unit Testing di Ruby ternyata gak/bukan bawaan dari standar perlnya ya, pas baca buku yang ditulis chromatic (buku perl testing) oo baru tau itu adanya di CPAN toh.. padahal hari gini kata-kata macam "agile" benar-benar jadi buzzword buat orang-orang yang benar-benar melaksanakannya dan yang tau nyebut2x kata itu saja (kalo gw keknya paling masi level di nomer 2 barusan deh). tumben ini ya, biasanya kan orang ruby sering nyontek dapet ide dari orang perl :-D -- Arie | http://www.linkedin.com/in/ariekeren http://ariekusumaatmaja.wordpress.com | http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/id-ruby Never say RTFM. 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