----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [idn] call for comments for REORDERING
> In a message dated 2001-10-18 21:33:55 Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > 1) saturations in TLD namespaces would require longer names for which > > REORDERING is designed to give greater benefits/compression ratio. > > Is it not the case that logographic/ideographic writing systems such as Han > and the syllable-oriented Unicode encoding of Hangul, with their large > numbers of characters, convey more information per character than alphabetic > scripts? How long, conceptually, does a domain name really need to be? > > I would probably have a warmer spot in my heart for these script-specific > compression proposals if I were convinced that the users of Han and Hangul > were somehow being cheated by not being able to register the equivalent of > "FourthDistrictCentralProvincialLibraryBoardOfDirectors.org" as a domain name. First) REORDERING is useful for very common han/hangeul labels of length 4~8. Second) If we take into consideration the additional length of subdomains of a IDN, the total length of <ML-subdomain>.<ML>.com often exceeds 14. ANd if we think about mailbox name in [EMAIL PROTECTED], it will exceed 20. IN that case, the Sum of the lengths of saved characters in each substring in [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be great, around 15~20, i guess. http://www.cnnic.net/daily/2001-8/9.shtml will answer some of your questions. We should not attempt to draw an upper limit on future applications of han/hangeul IDN domains by imposing unfair disadvantage on max length of Han/hangeul labels . Soobok Lee > > > 2.0) the character frequency table are constructed from > > Verisign GRS' ML.com testbeds. > > Even for chinese han script, their > > registrations came from China/TAIWAN/JAPAN/KOREA and other > > non-asian squatters. > > I know that Soobok is not specifically listing this as a goal, but I thought > efforts to accommodate the 15-character-and-longer Han domain names that have > already been registered was explicitly a non-goal, since those businesses and > individuals were supposed to have waited until an IDN solution was in place. > > -Doug Ewell > Fullerton, California >
