On 9/27/23 13:36, Brotman, Alex wrote:
I've attached a draft that uses attributes of a passing DKIM signature to create a DNS label that can be used to discover an FBL address. This feedback address can be used by message receivers to provide a copy of FN (and potentially FP) (Spam/Not-Spam) reports to the DKIM signers. This allows for entities to perhaps sign with more than one signature, and provide feedback to each signer if desired (or each can list multiple rcpts if desired). With traditional FBLs, the lookup is likely based off the final sender IP address, which could be the original sender, or an intermediary. This DKIM-based method could aid both MBPs and ESPs in fighting outbound abuse from their platforms. There are also methods in the document to attempt to do more to make reports smaller, aiding storage and PII concerns. Thanks for your time and feedback.

I'm not clear why would DKIM selectors (s=) be involved in the DNS name generation. There are people who change selector for each message. In general, selectors play no role in identification and are solely used for key rotation. I guess your spec derives from seeing per-campaign selectors, but I doubt it is a common habit. I'd suggest using subdomains for such purpose.


For a nit, consider the term "reporter" in the last paragraph of the introduction:

   By allowing reporters to discover the destination on their own, this
   should make getting FBLs to the original DKIM signer(s) easier.

As you hold that FBLs are reports from users to their MBPs, which only in some situations are forwarded to the original sender, the term may sound ambiguous. I'd suggest "reporting MBPs" instead.


For discussion, it'd be interesting to analyze similarity and differences with List-Unsubscribe:, for FNs. How would a MBP decide whether to make use of one, the other, or both methods to signal its user's reaction?


Best
Ale
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