On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 1:14 PM John Levine <[email protected]> wrote:

> >I agree with your second point without conceding the first.  We were
> experimenting with different possibilities in a collaborative development
> stage.  This wasn't supposed to be a fixed final spec,
> >ready to be "implemented correctly".  The development stage is different
> from coming along and implementing a static spec later.
> >
> >And I don't think this line of discussion is leading anywhere
> productive.  I continue to hold that the characterisation of that hackathon
> in your draft is unfair.
>
> I agree with Bron. The whole point of the Hackathon is for people to
> implement
> draft specs to find out what works and what doesn't, and to find and if
> time
> permits fix gaps and mistakes in the drafts. Nobody expects the drafts to
> be
> perfect, or for implementations based on them to work on the first try.
>

(as a participant)

+1.  This matches the value we got from the original DKIM interoperability
events almost 20 years ago now (ugh!), and reflects how the spec and
implementations interacted during development.  I believe there is nearly
unanimous agreement that this was successful.  I see no reason to avoid
embracing that model here.

-MSK
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