It appears that Richard Clayton  <[email protected]> said:
>>> there is work elsewhere to try and work with registrars to allow that type 
>>> of 
>>activity to be outsourced to authorised people (such as their ESP)
>>
>>Are you referring to existing tools/vendors, or is there an IETF group
>>focused on this effort? I'll admit to being skeptical that a
>>registrar-level solution addresses the range of situations we've seen,
>>but I'd like to learn more.
>
>I do not believe that the work has made it to the IETF yet

This sounds like the domainconnect work happening down the virtual hall in the
DCONN working group.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dconn/documents/

While a commercial mailer and their ESP feel it is very important to get their
mail delivered, on the Internet nobody has any obligation to deliver mail from
anyone else. For the most part we Do Not Care about commercial mail people send
to us. We don't mind the relatively unspammy stuff, but it it disappeared, meh.

Hence this is really a discussion about money. Any mailer could get their DNS
working if they were willing to invest the time and money to do so. Depending on
their setup and the mail they want to send, in some cases it'll be worth it to
them, in some cases it won't. But if it isn't, that's the mailer's decision
(perhaps with some help from the ESP) and it's not up to anyone else to solve
their problems for them.

R's,
John

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