> Yes, and if there were a proposal for standardizing something that > depended on solving World Hunger first, I would be skeptical of > that too.
Since the people I know involved with DKIM expect it to be plenty useful without third party reputation services, I'm not sure what your point is. Mail servers all have a homebrewed idea of reputations. You can't run a server these days without it. Merely having a way to identify mail sent from domains in a local whitelist or blacklist will let that mail bypass slow and inaccurate heuristic spam filters, without any reference to an external reputation service. Would it be nice to have third party reputation services? Sure. But having been trying to get people think about them in the ASRG for the past two years, I can report that we have a few rather incompatible experiments, none have gotten significant traction, and we don't even have any agreement yet on what the semantics of a reputation query or answer would be. This is research, not standards work. Demanding reputation systems for DKIM is approximately like saying that SMTP depends on solving the problem of getting mail into users' mailboxes. Every SMTP server has to have a way to get the mail into the mailboxes, but we've been getting by without a standard way to do it for 25 years and SMTP seems to be usable anyway. Regards, John Levine, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, Mayor "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. _______________________________________________ ietf-dkim mailing list http://dkim.org
