Mark Delany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 11:57:29AM -0700, Eric Rescorla allegedly wrote: >> >>>We seem to be suffering from trying to hit a moving target. >> >> Hmm... Maybe, but I think my comments are in line with comments >> >> I've made previously. It's possible that my comments don't >> >> agree with Russ's, of course. >> > >> > That's seems to be the genesis. Hence my comments to the ietf list >> > a couple of months ago. What would you have us do since this seems >> > to be a meta argument between you and our AD? >> >> A meta-argument? Are you saying that you think that Russ would like >> you NOT to do the analysis I suggested? I'd be quite surprised to hear >> that. > > So what? That an AD doesn't preclude your analysis doesn't give it any > positive value. It simply means that ADs are inclusive, as they should > be. It certainly doesn't make your analysis a pre-requisite of > anything, does it?
Of course not. But equally, it doesn't mean that it's a bad idea to do it. > What you need to show is why your analysis warrants special merit. For > at least two reasons. > > First off, every man and his dog has a perspective in this space, why > is your perspective so special compared to the 100s of others > participating here? > > Second off, we've been given very specific instructions that maximize > WG formation and those instructions are orthogonal to your > analysis. Why should we focus on your analysis to the detriment of > energy expended on WG formation? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. The reason you should consider these issues isn't that they're my opinion or that I have some authority to make you do so, but rather that (IMHO) the issues are worth considering. Since I explained the issues in a fair amount of detail, I figure people can make their own assessment on this point. Now, of course, you may have a different opinion about the importance of these issues, but just asserting that you (even for large values of you) disagree isn't much of an argument. > As a final note, your analysis seems very late in the day. We are no > more than a week or so away from the BOF, yet the derived I-Ds are > already on their second iteration and the whole premise was first > raised in IETF60 around a year and a half ago. To question > fundamentals now, seems unfairly late in the game. Huh? I raised these issues at the first MASS BOF and again at the DKIM BOF in Paris. It's hardly my fault that they've never been addressed adequately. That said, I don't see what fair has to do with it. Either DKIM will do something useful or it won't, and that's independent of the time when the question of its usefulness was raised. -Ekr _______________________________________________ ietf-dkim mailing list http://dkim.org
