Wietse Venema wrote:
> Jim Fenton:
>   
>> Thanks for the summary, Stephen.
>>
>> Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>     
>>> - There are arguments that supporting both original and
>>> mail-list signatures would be useful, but there are
>>> also difficulties with this in particular adding the
>>> mail-list signature will often break the original
>>> signature. (If the mail-list signature only covers
>>> the content and certain headers like List-Id then
>>> this might work better).
>>>       
>> I didn't find the original mention of this, but I'm not clear on why
>> adding a mail-list signature would break the original.  It's just an
>> additional header field, and unless the original signature was
>> constructed to prevent that (by including DKIM-Signature in the h=
>> headers) there shouldn't be a problem.  What might break the original
>> signatures is the modifications to the message that necessitated the
>> mail-list signature.
>>     
>
> When the list server's DKIM signature covers a FROM: header with
> an address in some unrelated domain, would not this be considered
> a third-party signature? This would be avoided by having the list
> sign only the headers that identify the list.
>   
When a recipient looks at a message, they see (typically) the From:
address.  If there is a signature corresponding to this address, the
message has an Originating Address signature.  If there isn't, but there
is some other valid signature on the message, it has a third-party
signature.  It's the correspondence (or lack thereof) between the
signature address and the origin address that the user typically sees
that determines whether it's a third-party signature.

Signing the From: header is currently required, but suppose it weren't: 
It would still be significant whether or not the signature represented
the From address, and that would determine whether it was a third-party
signature or not.

-Jim
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