At 06:43 25-02-2008, MH Michael Hammer (5304) wrote:
>Without intending to put words in John's mouth, I think what he meant is
>that there is the risk of some legitimate email being lost if a receiver
>respects a discardable assertion. In that respect, sending domains need
>to consider carefully the implications of making a discardable
>assertion. Something along the lines of "careful what you ask for
>because you just might get it".

The receiver might read it as "sender doesn't care whether the mail 
gets delivered".

>The other factor is that receiving domains are going to consider
>complaints received by their users for undelivered email in their
>calculation of whether to respect a discardable assertion. We all know
>that there are quite a few domains that have implemented all manner of
>things incorrectly, poorly or with a misunderstanding of the
>consequences of their actions. Once there is more experience with
>SSP/Discardable/etc on the part of senders and receivers, I expect this
>to be less of a problem - or should I say "I hope".

John Levine made a case for when discardable is useful.  As he 
doesn't even want rejections, the receiver will also have to decide what to do:

  1. If the key cannot be retrieved in DNS

  2. On failures for DKIM checks (excluding hash verification)

  3. MTA failures

At the moment, these are treated as a temporary failure.  To avoid 
any blockback, the receiver might as well drop all mail from that domain.

>The receiver domain is likely to choose to balance the benefit from
>listening to discardable assertions and the increase in support calls
>that might result from any particular domains discardable assertion.

Yes.

Regards,
-sm 

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