I think Murray's point is a fair one. This thread isn't
really progressing in terms of what to in/exclude from
4871bis as far as I can see so let's leave it there.

Stephen.

Doug Otis wrote:
> On Jun 8, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> 
>>> The use of the DKIM l=,  z= and x= features provide a means for  
>>> recipients to separately evaluate DKIM signatures without reliance  
>>> on intermediary assessors.  In addition, the A-R header does not  
>>> capture the IP address when assessing path registration protocols,  
>>> which means that safe recipient reassessment might only be possible  
>>> in the case of DKIM or reverse DNS.
>>> [...]
>> Could we please not re-re-re-rehash these A-R issues on ietf-dkim?
> 
> 
> This was in response Charles making the statement:
> 
> "For such forensic investigations, removing useful information (aka  
> "dumbing down") is always a dumb thing."
> 
> These headers represent an active and potentially hazardous component  
> used in email annotation.  Unless the border MTA is willing to assert  
> the A-R headers not removed are safe, the A-R headers should be  
> removed.  The point of "rehashing" information excluded from the A-R  
> header was to emphasize the point that these headers were not intended  
> to play a role in forensics.  Otherwise, the source of a message would  
> have been important.
> 
> -Doug 
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