John R. Levine wrote:

> 
>> Shorter summary: The WG charter says there should be
> 
> Yes, there was considerable naive optimism in the charter.
> 
> We all agree that it would be great to have a scheme to spoof-proof mail. 
> But ADSP isn't it, for the reasons we've all gone over, 


which were?

> no matter how much we might wish that it were.


-1.  The only wish I have is that stop injecting misinformation.

Any domain that publishes a DKIM=DISCARDABLE and for any receiver that 
supports ADSP will immediately protect the Author Domain and the 
receiver system from further abuse from:

   1) ALL legacy (non-signed mail) DOMAIN spoof attempts at
      the receiver.

   1) All 3rd party signed mail NOT EXPECTED by the Author Domain
      regardless if its was a malicious reply or a stupid list
      server ignoring RFC 5617.

Both are huge immediate payoffs for the domain and receiver.  To deny 
this high benefit is being intentionally ignorant.

> I can assure you that Paypal and eBay are quite aware of DKIM and ADSP, 
> and I have personally heard them encourage ISPs to drop unsigned mail 
> purporting to be from them due to the amount of forgery.  Nonetheless, 
> they don't publish ADSP.  


Well, maybe if the WG can get a true champion of POLICY and not one 
that selfishly took over SSP with the sole clever confessing purpose 
of creating a non-working protocol poison pill, then could change.

No one can take any POLICY opposition serious from one that author's a 
document he doesn't support.

Your input is extremely bias and a conflict of interest to the WG 
participants who have interest in seeing a POLICY system work.

But you know, I don't blame you. I blame the CHAIRS for allowing this 
to occur. It is surreal! It is completely wrong to have you as the 
author of a draft standard you don't even want PEOPLE to support.

Is that crazy or what?

> This tells me that I'm not the only one who 
> thinks that there isn't a business case for ADSP.


Thats crazy!

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