On 4/26/10 10:36 AM, McDowell, Brett wrote:
> On Apr 23, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>
>    
>> Something like: X sends to a list at Y that then relays to Z; Z trusts Y to 
>> implement DKIM and Authentication-Results and all that properly, so Z 
>> believes Y when it says "X had a signature on here that verified" even if 
>> X's signature on arrival at Z is either invalid or absent.
>>      
> That's interesting.  Let's make this concrete... I'll use myself as an 
> example.
>
> X = me/PayPal.com
> Y = this list/[email protected]
> Z = Google's Gmail service [1]
>
> It is my assumption that someone subscribed to this list has a gmail.com 
> account (or a Yahoo.com account [2]).  Therefore, my use case is simple.  I 
> would hope that those of you reading this from your Gmail or Yahoo! accounts 
> actually receive this message.  If Z breaks the signature, you won't see this.
>
> So if it simply isn't practical to expect lists to maintain the signature, 
> then offering the option for the list to validate the signature coming from X 
> and send a new signature to Z that Z *can* (but doesn't have to) "trust", is 
> something immediately useful.
>    
Brett,

Is there interest in a scalable mechanism able to selectively endorse 
any number of mailing-lists known by the d=domain as safely relaying 
headers and body content?

This scheme could use the tpa-label conventions, where domains such as 
PayPal.com could publish a CNAME to a domain containing hash lists of 
mailing-lists vouched for by the domain being pointed to by the CNAME?  
The tpa-label itself could narrow the endorsements for specific types of 
messages of messages as well.

The CNAME at the tpa-label location could point to something like:
safe-mailing-lists.vouching-service.org.

In this way, special arrangements are not needed for those wishing to 
use a restrictive ADSP.  This could then avoid disrupting reputable 
mailing-lists.

If there is any interest, the tpa-label draft could be pursued 
individual submission, so I understand.

-Doug

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