On 02/May/10 13:33, Douglas Otis wrote:
> On 5/2/10 11:10 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>>>>  The opt-in mechanism, I'd say. There's no standardized way for
>>>>  subscribers' servers to learn about subscriptions.
>>>>
>>>  Even if you consider that to be a problem, what could it possibly have
>>>  to do with DKIM?
>>>
>>  Just that if there were a handshake between a list server and a new
>>  subscriber's MX, they could also agree upon ADSP forwarding, e.g. by
>>  whitelisting the list server.
>>
> To retain security, the sender's domain needs to assert domain specific
> exceptions for "all" or "discard-able" ADSP policies.

That's false, under several acceptations of "security". /Necessity/ of 
such assertions only makes sense if "security" is meant to be the 
ability of a domain to restrict legitimate uses of its name, such as 
its users writing to mailing lists, or to their grandma's.
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