> More than expecting to, we are actively working on deployments with parties > interested in "opting-in" to this open, standards-based, authenticated email > ecosystem. Unfortunately for the sake of this debate, I cannot disclose who > just yet. A problem, here, is that you are using that citation as a kind of proof of the correctness of your position, but we do not have access to the data to make an independent assessment. On the average, much of the argumentation in this thread -- by most of the participants -- seems to be in a style that asserts one person's expertise over another's, and generally seems inclined to refrain from considering details either for or against a position. Ad hominen or hostile tone is then mixed in to make the defender (or attacker) feel superior while nonetheless failing to respond with substance. In a serious discussion, I'd expect to see someone's offering a specific criticism, concern, counter-example or the like to get a response that incorporates what was offered, responding to the particulars. For some reason, discussion here seems to be resistance to such a substantive clarifying efforts. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net _______________________________________________ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html
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