At 04:23 PM 6/18/01, Scott Brim wrote:
>Publishers lose control of how a resource is treated but still
>(optionally) retain control over the resource itself, e.g. through
>watermarks.  I doubt that publishers care if their content is carried
>over Ethernet or ATM today.



>  How much do publishers care how their
>content is encapsulated, routed, encoded, etc.?

Publishers care if their content is damaged in flight (e.g. proxies which 
remove or alter content, which includes AOL's mangling of graphics). They 
also may care to know how many people and which people are accessing content.

>  What do you think OPES
>could do that a publisher (1) would be concerned about, and (2) could
>not protect against?

I think OPES will further the sale of SSL accelerator boxes and web 
certificates. If the only way to protect content from uninvited third-party 
intermediaries, then content which is not otherwise confidential is going 
to be encrypted.

It's one thing if the publisher purposely buys the services of a content 
delivery network, it's quite something else when someone inserts a 
transparent proxy, especially one which alters the content.

>On 18 Jun 2001 at 12:51 -0700, Mark Nottingham apparently wrote:
> > As such, the OPES goals break end-to-end transparency at the
> > application layer. As a result, (using HTTP as an example, because it
> > seems the first target of OPES), the publisher loses control over a
> > resource once it leaves their server. It then becomes impossible to
> > makes statements about that resource (e.g., P3P, Semantic Web, legal
> > status of a resource, etc.).

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