Focusing on the positive...
"end-to-end" is important, but relative to a particular
Protocol/AddressSpace architecture
The IPv8 cloud is end-to-end and can overlay on the IPv4 cloud.
The IPv16 cloud is end-to-end and designed to be native and fast.
Both can overlay on IPv6, which is generic and slow
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12213.html
2002:<IPv4>:0000:<IPv8> vs. 3FFE:<IPv6>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike O'Dell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:22 AM
Subject: OPES is evil incarnate
>
> I can't believe what i'm reading here
>
> the though of the IETF hosting a group whose primary purpose
> is to attack the end-to-end principle is abhorrent. there is
> no other both obvious and likely use for this "technology"
> than unwanted interdiction. it is evil. "Just Say No."
>
> yes indeed, sometimes people will insist on doing stupid
> things, but they should go do them elsewhere, well away from
> the IETF and certainly without the IETF impremateur.
>
> the premise that by hosting them we might be able to
> help them be slightly less stupid is just pointless.
>
> creating an OPES working group will be a collossal
> mistake the IETF will regret for a very long time
>
> harumph.
>
> -mo
> Resident Crank
>
