And so:-)...   May the best technology win!

In general, the best does win, in due course;-)...\Stef

At 12:08 -0500 19/06/01, Jim Fleming wrote:
>Focusing on the positive...
>
>"end-to-end" is important, but relative to a particular
>Protocol/AddressSpace architecture
>
>The IPv8 cloud is end-to-end and can overlay on the IPv4 cloud.
>The IPv16 cloud is end-to-end and designed to be native and fast.
>
>Both can overlay on IPv6, which is generic and slow
>http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12213.html
>2002:<IPv4>:0000:<IPv8> vs. 3FFE:<IPv6>
>
>http://www.unir.com/images/architech.gif
>http://www.unir.com/images/address.gif
>http://www.unir.com/images/headers.gif
>http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/sdks/platform/tpipv6/start.asp
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike O'Dell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:22 AM
>Subject: OPES is evil incarnate
>
>
>  >
>  > I can't believe what i'm reading here
>  >
>  > the though of the IETF hosting a group whose primary purpose
>  > is to attack the end-to-end principle is abhorrent.  there is
>  > no other both obvious and likely use for this "technology"
>  > than unwanted interdiction.  it is evil.  "Just Say No."
>  >
>  > yes indeed, sometimes people will insist on doing stupid
>  > things, but they should go do them elsewhere, well away from
>  > the IETF and certainly without the IETF impremateur.
>  >
>  > the premise that by hosting them we might be able to
>  > help them be slightly less stupid is just pointless.
>  >
>  > creating an OPES working group will be a collossal
>  > mistake the IETF will regret for a very long time
>  >
>  > harumph.
>  >
>  > -mo
>  > Resident Crank
>  >

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