Hello Mike,

> oh i agree!  the failure to start from working code
> is the perniscious failing of most modern IETF WGs

I gather you wouldn't have much sympathy for problem
statements and requirements documents that are in process
within several working groups now.  What do you think
about, say, progress within the AAA working group,
which has already finished those phases?

Regards,
Charlie P.

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