And which of the two of you did I hear volunteer to start
writing a coherent and unified "best practices" I-D?  Please
take this off the list and start writing.

   john


--On Wednesday, 16 April, 2008 22:30 +0100 Sabahattin Gucukoglu
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Hi Frank,
> 
> On 16 Apr 2008 at 20:46, Frank Ellermann
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
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>> "Tony Finch" wrote:
>> 
>> > I doubt that it makes sense to accept email from 
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on a system that can only
>> > communicate with IPv4 addresses.
>> 
>> In stark contrast to Ned's view I think that you
>> MUST reject such mails - unless you can guarantee
>> delivery without auto-response (no NDR, no DSN,
>> no MDN, no vacation, no forward, in essence an 
>> empty reverse-path, near to rewrite MAIL FROM:<>)
> 
> No, I don't agree.  Your only real obligation is to ensure
> that your  output relay doesn't attempt a delivery and so
> waste resources when it  can't do it by simply guaranteeing
> that IPv6 hosts aren't considered in  email routing at time of
> delivery (EG worst case is a double-bounce  listing "No data"
> as reason because the resolver routines have ignored the  IPv6
> addresses, if double-bounces were enabled - and they should
> be!).   That doesn't mean not accepting mail from IPv6-only
> hosts, any more than  it means not accepting mail from an
> invalid mailbox.  IMHO, it's your  responsibility to ensure
> that mail can and will be accepted and to make  sure that it
> will be delivered so that the minimal number of DSNs/whatever 
> have to be generated to accomodate your configuration problems
> under  whatever circumstance.  It is less wise to depend on a
> sender check that  doesn't make sense semantically (there
> never has been and never will be a  requirement in a spec
> enforcing it, and for good reason, even if it makes  sense for
> policy) and which is only really useful as a feeble antispam 
> check nowadays anyway in these days of deliberate DSN disposal.
> 
>> Same idea as in EAI, after a reject "the sender
>> can make another plan".  After accepting it the
>> IPv6-only mail vanished in a black hole for all
>> non-trivial cases.  
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
> 
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