At 11:33 PM +0100 11/14/01, Jeroen Massar wrote:
>John W Noerenberg II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  At 5:46 PM +0000 11/14/01, Lloyd Wood wrote:
>>  >
>>  >since when did the wider IETF community (if, indeed, there is such a
>  > >thing) read [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
>>
>>  One might get a sense of this by looking at the number of subscribers
>>  to [EMAIL PROTECTED] vs. the number of people who show up at IETF
>>  meetings.
>
>Maybe you should consider the fact that some people:
>  - don't have time to attend due to work or other activities.
>  - aren't in a position to attend (finance, disabilities, distance).
>and many other factors?

That was part of my thought behind my suggestion, Jeroen.  However, 
before we consider what the data means, we first have to have some 
data.  Hence, the request.  While it is certainly gratifying to 
indulge one's passions about the nature of the IETF, we'll make more 
headway in understanding our own culture, if we take the time to look 
at it objectively.

>Communicating by email is much cheaper then don't you think?

Consequently, you reach people engaged in the work who couldn't 
otherwise participate.  That is the essence of why WG decisions MUST 
come from the result of discussion on the WG mailing list.

best,
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john noerenberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   While the belief we  have found the Answer can separate us
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