At 06:34 PM 5/29/2002 -0400, Scott Brim wrote: >arguments won't do it. There are only two ways to change IETF culture: >(1) have people of influence issue a document of some sort and promote >it for 3 years, or (2) have a plenary meeting and come up with a good >sound bite to summarize a solution (like "we reject kings, presidents
the sound bite came from a person of influence issuing it. yes, it happened to be at a plenary, but it was a thoroughly "produced" occurrence. At 03:35 PM 5/29/2002 -0700, Randy Bush wrote: >sure is a lot of interest in this subject from diverse folk. maybe >we should hold a wg/bof meeting on friday in yokohama to discuss it. Sopunds like we are targeting a free-form coffee klatch or encounter group, to let all us ignorant folk vent our feelings on this difficult legal topic, and we all hope that there is an accident of brilliance that instantly solves everything -- even though we haven't solved it in 12 years of effort? We seem to hold process-related IETF work to a very, very different standard of work specification than we hold for technical efforts. d/ ---------- Dave Crocker <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TribalWise, Inc. <http://www.tribalwise.com> tel +1.408.246.8253; fax +1.408.850.1850
