> On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 11:51  AM, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
> 
> > The key in my view is to work on the NAT vendors, instead 
> of viewing 
> > NAT
> > boxes as an obstacle they should be seen for what they 
> really are, an
> > essential and important part of the internet infrastructure.
> 
> you obviously don't write applications.

No, because I design and use applications I really wish that the IETF
had designed a decent NAT box spec rather than adopting the ostrich
position.

                Phill

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