> From: Simon Josefsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Arguments on complexity are too easy to make. Every time a 
> proposal is 
> > made I hear the complexity argument used against it. 
> Everything we do 
> > is complex. Computers are complex. Committee process 
> usually increases 
> > complexity somewhat.
> >
> > If an argument can always be used what is the discrimination power?
> 
> How about using answers to the question "Is this complexity needed?"
> as a discriminator?
> 
> Sometimes, there is no better solution than one with certain 
> complexity.  That isn't inherently bad.
> 
> I'm not sure the need for this particular complex solution 
> was demonstrated.  I don't recall anyone defending it.  The 
> experimental track thus seems appropriate, if it should be 
> published at all.

Define 'need'.

Define 'complexity'.

>From my point of view a device that has two parser stacks on it is more 
>complex than a device that can do it all with a single stack. Thus translating 
>SNMP into XML makes excellent sense and reduces complexity overall.

I don't think it makes sense to translate every ASN.1 protocol into XML, 
particularly if there is an XML infrastructure for the purpose. But I would 
certainly prefer to be able to support SNMP on an XML centric device without 
having to provide an ASN.1 stack. Further I would like there to be consistency 
in the way that SNMP/XML and LDAP/XML to map to the traditional ASN.1 versions.

It's a legitimate architectural approach and the IETF should not take sides 
against it.

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