On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 04:36:51PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
> 
> >> again, the fundamental problem here is that the RIRs are trying to
> >> second-guess IETF design decisions.
> >>
> >>     
> >
> >     "the" RIRs are membership organizations, with members
> >     consisting of the operational community.  they have to
> >     try and work with whatever the IETF gives them.. and when
> >     what the IETF provides is not operationaly feasable, they
> >     can and will make changes so that an operational network
> >     exists.
> >   
> no demonstration has been made that what IETF provided is "not
> operationally feasible".  also, I suggest that the RIRs are only
> considering operations from a narrow point-of-view.

        hum... something got your dander up... that doesnt qualify
        as a demonstration?  and your suggestions (as Ray pointed
        out) are not reaching the RIR community by your posting here.

> >     now the IETF is a membership organization as well, so
> >     individuals can participate in both communities..  if
> >     you feel that an RIR policy is wrong, then the correct
> >     place to "fix" it is within the RIR community. 
> perhaps, but if IETF has the problem that it's not willing to assert its
> ownership over its own protocols, that problem is better addressed in
> IETF than in ARIN.

        very true.  but throwing protocols "over the wall" and 
        ignoring operational input does tend to affect the credibility
        and/or the usefulness of said protocol. Or are you suggesting
        that the IETF designs protocols without regard to operational
        relevence?


> 
> Keith
> 

-- 
--bill

Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and
certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise).


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