On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:15:55 +1300
Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2007-10-25 04:30, Sam Hartman wrote:
> 
> ...
> >     Simon> If you replace IBM with 'A Patent Troll', do you think
> >     Simon> the same holds?  > > I think that such behavior should
> >     Simon> be presumed not to be a patent
> > troll.  Patent trolls are not known forpromising to give away
> > royalty-free licenses.
> 
> They are also, in general, known for *not* particpating in
> the standards process, precisely to avoid falling under
> patent disclosure requirements. As far as non-participants
> are concerned, nothing in our rules matters.
> 
Right.  Any IPR policy has to acknowledge the fact that relevant
patents can be owned by non-troll non-participants.  (Too many
negatives there -- what I'm saying is that IETFers don't know of all
patents in the space, and there are real patent owners who care about
their patents, even though they aren't trolls.)


                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

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