-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Brian et al,
I remember Vint told me in the early days, he had to pay people to develop a TCP/IP stack on various OSes. This is how partly he got adoption and interoperability. While it is not the role of IETF to do that, I feel part of the solution is there. Pay people to implement protocols for the greater good on various platforms, the market will do the rest after a significant user base is built. Cheers Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Phill, > > > On 2007-12-24 07:32, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: >> Problem: We have a lot of specifications that work fine, but have >> not seen deployment >> >> Examples: Most security specifications, IPv6, etc. etc. >> >> Cause: The economic case for deployment is not made. This is a >> particular concern when the protocol deplends on the network >> effect. Until the network is established the protocol has minimal >> value. >> >> Proposed Solution: Deployment Cases >> >> As engineers we are now used to considering use cases, that is >> representative use scenarios that illustrate particular >> intendeded uses. The output of use cases are requirements. >> >> Deployment cases are similar except that we consider the economic >> incentives for transition. > > IMHO, whenever the IETF has tried to do anything like this, we've > failed. A good (er, bad) example was draft-ietf-iab-case-for-ipv6, > which had so many issues that it was allowed to curl up and die. > > Basically, we aren't business-oriented people or economists, and we > don't tolerate marketing-style bending of the facts. > > I'm pessimistic about trying this in the IETF, even for > technologies that are aimed at the greater good, where the economic > arguments are not about short term returns for individual > companies. > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Franck Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question" G. Bachelard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHcxQ4vnmeYIHZEyARAi5CAKCWTT5XErGpa1YlBOep0uhz0QRNLQCfXXZU elpteL2cpSnQUirUxTNw/Y0= =0xQJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
