To respond to the original question.

For what it is worth, I have written a simple and free tool in java for
editing (and viewing) drafts using nroff, which I find a lot easier and
convenient than XML.

It's available from: http://aaa-sec.com/nroffedit/index.html

Source is available upon request.

/Stefan


On 09-06-28 6:33 PM, "Iljitsch van Beijnum" <iljit...@muada.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> XML2RFC isn't working for me.
> 
> For instance, We are now required to use boilerplate that the
> "official" version of XML2RFC doesn't recognize so it's necessary to
> use a beta version that is even more undocumented than the regular
> undocumentedness of the "official" version of XML2RFC. Of course such
> things tend to only surface the day of the cutoff.
> 
> I used to write drafts by hand sometimes in the past, but this is also
> very hard, because today's tools just don't have any notion of hard
> line endings, let alone with spaces at the beginning of all lines and
> hard page breaks (at places that make no sense in an A4 world, too).
> 
> This is getting worse because the checks done on IDs upon submission
> are getting stricter and stricter.
> 
> See 
> http://www.educatedguesswork.org/movabletype/archives/2007/11/curse_you_xml2r.
> html 
>   for a long story that I mostly agree with.
> 
> As such, I want to see the following:
> 
> - the latest boilerplate is published in an easy to copy&paste format
> - drafts may omit page breaks
> - drafts may omit indentation and hard line breaks
> - no requirements for reference formats
> 
> Note that this is for drafts in general. If the RFC editor wishes to
> impose stricter formatting rules I can live with that.
> 
> Please don't reply with helpful hints on how to work with XML2RFC.
> Even with a perfect XML2RFC I would still be forced to create XML,
> which is something I desperately long to avoid.
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