I just do my drafts in nroff and edit with emacs.

Donald
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 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
 d3e...@gmail.com

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Stefan Santesson<ste...@aaa-sec.com> wrote:
> To respond to the original question.
>
> For what it is worth, I have written a simple and free tool in java for
> editing (and viewing) drafts using nroff, which I find a lot easier and
> convenient than XML.
>
> It's available from: http://aaa-sec.com/nroffedit/index.html
>
> Source is available upon request.
>
> /Stefan
>
>
> On 09-06-28 6:33 PM, "Iljitsch van Beijnum" <iljit...@muada.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> XML2RFC isn't working for me.
>>
>> For instance, We are now required to use boilerplate that the
>> "official" version of XML2RFC doesn't recognize so it's necessary to
>> use a beta version that is even more undocumented than the regular
>> undocumentedness of the "official" version of XML2RFC. Of course such
>> things tend to only surface the day of the cutoff.
>>
>> I used to write drafts by hand sometimes in the past, but this is also
>> very hard, because today's tools just don't have any notion of hard
>> line endings, let alone with spaces at the beginning of all lines and
>> hard page breaks (at places that make no sense in an A4 world, too).
>>
>> This is getting worse because the checks done on IDs upon submission
>> are getting stricter and stricter.
>>
>> See
>> http://www.educatedguesswork.org/movabletype/archives/2007/11/curse_you_xml2r.
>> html
>>   for a long story that I mostly agree with.
>>
>> As such, I want to see the following:
>>
>> - the latest boilerplate is published in an easy to copy&paste format
>> - drafts may omit page breaks
>> - drafts may omit indentation and hard line breaks
>> - no requirements for reference formats
>>
>> Note that this is for drafts in general. If the RFC editor wishes to
>> impose stricter formatting rules I can live with that.
>>
>> Please don't reply with helpful hints on how to work with XML2RFC.
>> Even with a perfect XML2RFC I would still be forced to create XML,
>> which is something I desperately long to avoid.
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