Hi Henk,

In a previous discussion about this it was clear that was not the Dutch
railway, but the Belgium one ... However, it was recommended to use the fast
train from/to Brussels, as it was faster than to Amsterdam ... Clearly was
not the case.

The secretariat does an on site visit. It is simple to add one more point
and question about the trains if this is going to be used by most of the
participants (as it was in this case) and actually there is not a good
international local airport.

WE can't recommend train if we don't "sample" it.

And you know, in this case was quite obvious. If you ask in the train
station, as I did (unfortunately too late), they will tell you:

"Oh NO, don't believe at all at the information on the web site, it has not
been updated for ages !".

I think we could have avoided and we SHOULD avoid this mess to the
participants.

Regards,
Jordi




> From: Henk Uijterwaal <[email protected]>
> Organization: RIPE NCC
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:38:23 +0200
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: FW: [78attendees] WARNING !!! Re: Maastricht to
> Brussels-Nat-Aero, Sat 07:09
> 
> Jordi,
> 
>> Maastricht proved that the information provided by the train web sites was
>> totally FALSE.
>> This is something that the secretariat/IAOC SHOULD verify before accepting a
>> venue.
> 
> The Dutch railway site (www.ns.nl) is quite accurate.  It lists the trains,
> arrival time, departure time and location where you have to change trains.
> In the 6 years or so that I've been a regular train user, I still have to
> come across a case where the website listed a train that the NS did not
> intend to run.
> 
> Of course, the system is as good as its input data.  If there is a
> technical problem or accident along a path, the website will notify
> you about that as soon as the data is entered.  In practice, this means
> some chaos and confusion the first 10-30 minutes after the incident,
> then decent warning messages appear.
> 
> That said, please explain to me how the IAOC can verify that a train
> sometime in the future, will not run according to schedule.
> 
> Henk
> 
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