----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Jaeggli" <joe...@bogus.com> To: <jordi.pa...@consulintel.es> Cc: <ietf@ietf.org> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [78attendees] WARNING !!! Re: Maastricht to Brussels-Nat-Aero,Sat 07:09
> On 8/26/10 6:01 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >> Hi Henk, >> >> This is the web site that was referred by the host web site for the fast >> speed train: >> >> http://www.maastrichtbrusselexpress.nl/?id=26 >> >> And still has the wrong information about the timing (the site has not been >> updated since the IETF, despite the written complain done to the train >> management and their confirmation that was not updated). > > > Perhaps when you're done fixing the Belgian rail system you can fix the > government as well... > very interesting point. >> Regards, >> Jordi >> >> >> >> >>> From: Henk Uijterwaal <h...@ripe.net> >>> Organization: RIPE NCC >>> Reply-To: <h...@ripe.net> >>> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:08:30 +0200 >>> To: <ietf@ietf.org> >>> Subject: Re: [78attendees] WARNING !!! Re: Maastricht to Brussels-Nat-Aero, >>> Sat 07:09 >>> >>> Hi Jordi, >>> >>>> In a previous discussion about this it was clear that was not the Dutch >>>> railway, but the Belgium one ... However, it was recommended to use the >>>> fast >>>> train from/to Brussels, as it was faster than to Amsterdam ... Clearly was >>>> not the case. >>> >>> It is a train starting in the Netherlands, the schedule published by the >>> NS on their website can then be considered authoritative. >>> >>>> The secretariat does an on site visit. It is simple to add one more point >>>> and question about the trains if this is going to be used by most of the >>>> participants (as it was in this case) and actually there is not a good >>>> international local airport. >>> >>> I don't remember if this question was asked or not, some of this was >>> discussed >>> before I joined the IAOC. But even if the question was asked, I don't >>> quite see how this would have solved your problem. 3 of the IAOC members >>> had travelled with Dutch trains beforehand and their experience was that >>> the information on the website was 100% accurate. >>> >>>> And you know, in this case was quite obvious. If you ask in the train >>>> station, as I did (unfortunately too late), they will tell you: >>>> "Oh NO, don't believe at all at the information on the web site, it has not >>>> been updated for ages !". >>> >>> This is strange, as both the NS (Dutch) and NMBS (Belgium) railways >>> recommend to check their websites to plan a trip. And again, I have >>> yet to come across a case where the website different from the >>> intention of the railway company to run a train. >>> >>> Henk >>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net >>> RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.xs4all.nl/~henku >>> P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 >>> 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 >>> The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> I confirm today what I denied yesterday. Anonymous Politician. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ietf mailing list >>> Ietf@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> >> >> >> ********************************************** >> The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org >> >> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or >> confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the >> individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware >> that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this >> information, including attached files, is prohibited. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf mailing list >> Ietf@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf