On Sep 20, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

> One of the problems I have seen emerge on many IETF mailing lists is the 
> habit of fisking.

Please clarify what you mean by fisking.

> By fisking I mean responding to a post  line by line *while reading it for 
> the first time*.

Thanks.  And why is this a bad thing, in your view?

> I seem to be reading an increasing number of posts on various lists where it 
> is very clear to me that the poster did not bother to read the entire message 
> before starting their reply.

Perhaps they're just very busy people?  Are you too ignorant to have thought of 
that?

> In particular I have read rather a lot of people starting off by accusing 
> their opponent of being ignorant of issues that their opponent actually 
> states only a few paragraphs further on.

Reading ahead is hard, you can't expect everyone to do it.  Many of us are too 
busy and important to take the time to compose a message carefully, so it makes 
sense to require everyone else to take longer to read our messages.

> Traditionally, top-posting (or bottom posting) has been discouraged in favor 
> of responding line by line. I think it is time to reverse that preference.

You can't tell me what to do; that's what the Nazis did.  You suck.

> In particular I find that arguments are often less combative and somewhat 
> shorter

Is that a crack about my height?  I dare you to say it to my face at the next 
IETF.  

> in mediums where people are forced to restate the issue they are objecting to 
> in their own words.

In all seriousness, forcing any particular approach is the real issue.  I can't 
imagine how it would be accomplished.  What I'd really like to force people to 
do is be more thoughtful and restrained; if they did that, it wouldn't much 
matter what approach they took to replies.  -- Nathaniel

PS for the humor impaired -- only my last paragraph was intended to be serious. 
 -- nsb

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