On Jun 21, 2011, at 06:30 , Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> It has been repeated ad-nausieum that "conference rates" subsidize the rental 
> of the meeting room block... The fact that the conference rates are more 
> expensive ( on a contract signed 24 months out) than a spot check of the room 
> rate at any given time should come as no surprise to anyone. You can cruise 
> the IETF finances if for some reason you don't believe this. If the room 
> block doesn't get filled you can expect your fees to go up accordingly over 
> time. I will observe that I have generally  not paid the conference rate or 
> stayed in the meeting hotel while attending the IETF on my own dime (and have 
> stayed in some rather nicer hotels (paris, stockholm, etc) for less money as 
> a result. When I attend on behalf my employer I make it clear what we paying 
> for when participating.
> 

Just one additional data-point here. 

For some of us, getting reimbursed for a higher meeting fee is actually a lot 
easier than getting reimbursed for a higher hotel-fee. Such would be the case 
when, for example, traveling on a fixed per-diem intended for covering 
accommodation/food, but reimbursed on cost for the meeting fee. 

For me, not an eyelid would be bat if I presented a quadruple (or more) 
meeting-fee-bill -- whereas it is a recurring administrative hassle to actually 
get a hotel-bill exceeding the per-diem to pass accounting (and, actually quite 
a lottery each time if it will be reimbursed....)

Not wanting to criticize, but  I would encourage that such situations also be 
considered when making plans for the IETF meeting payment structure.

Sincerely yours

Thomas

ps: Other than that, I am actually excited to go to Quebec City which - for 
those who've never been there - is a very very pleasant place to be. Also, when 
there, my French colleagues tend to mock me a whole lot less for my accent ;)

> please look at the balance sheet here:
> 
> http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/Meeting-Financials-2010-77.pdf
> 
> and note both the hotel commission, a credit, and the zero charge associated 
> with meeting rooms.
> 
> It's not clear to me that this can be made more transparent, but if you'd 
> like to try I'm sure that someone would be happy to nominate you for an open 
> iaoc position when available.
> 
> joel
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