On Jul 1, 2011, at 12:59 PM, John Leslie wrote:

> Paul Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jul 1, 2011, at 4:48 AM, John Leslie wrote:
>> 
>>> mail.ietf.org[64.170.98.30] got listed on SORBS for spamming.
>>> 
>>> It's not that hard to get off... Fix it!
>> 
>> 
>> It's also not that hard not to use poorly-managed blacklists. Just sayin'....
> 
>   I'm _really_ poor at flame-wars, but Paul is begging here...
> 
>   It's exceptionally hard for folks to avoid poorly-managed blacklists
> when the incoming-email setup isn't under their control. (Not true for
> me, of course, nor for my customers if they think to ask.)
> 
>   IMHO, it's entirely reasonable to use even poorly-managed blacklists
> as input to spam-assassin. And it's not up to _you_ to say what the
> scoring algorithm should be for one of my customers.

blacklists are the email version of terrorism, holding people's email service 
hostage in exchange for arbitrary tribute.

Keith

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