On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Brian E Carpenter < [email protected]> wrote:
> I think this disagreement between two ex-IAB Chairs deserves its own > thread. > > On 2011-09-21 17:47, Olaf Kolkman wrote: > > On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:09 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > > >> ...exactly. I'm far from convinced about that. I think the real need is > to > >> figure out how to make the IAOC an Oversight committee rather than it > getting > >> involved in executive decisions, and to figure out how to make the IAB > an > >> Architecture board instead of getting involved in administrative > matters. > > > > On the IAB: > > I do not agree that the focus needs to be on the "A" of architecture. > There is not a lot that the IAB does that is not in its charter. I believe > that the focus needs to be on the "B" of board. In other words, just as in > the IAOC more oversight. During my tenure we took a number of steps to move > the handy work into programs and initiatives in which the execution of > projects could take place so that the IAB members themselves could oversee > but that journey was far from complete. > > The tension between Architecture and Board has existed to my > personal knowledge since 1994, and probably longer. Let's not > forget that the IAB has had three names: > > 1984 Internet Advisory Board > There was at least one Internet Architecture Task Force meeting, in May 1986, as the Trust holds proceedings for it (Box C0000118340 of the Trust Archives). Regards Marshall > 1986 Internet Activities Board > 1992 Internet Architecture Board > > Maybe it's time to discuss whether the A and the B shouldn't simply > be split apart? > > > For the IAOC and IAB these will be difficult challenges that cannot be > enforced externally but also need an evolutionary culture change . Not only > in the I* bodies themselves but also how the NOMCOM. > > Indeed, and I think that is a more profound issue than just the Chairs' > workloads (which, in case it isn't clear, I definitely agree is a problem > that needs solving). > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >
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