At 01:34 AM 4/29/2013, Dave Crocker wrote: >On 4/28/2013 9:05 PM, Michael StJohns wrote: >>Let's consider for a moment that this may not actually be the correct >>question. Instead, consider "Why the diversity of the IETF leadership >>doesn't reflect the diversity of the set of the IETF WG chairs"? I believe >>this is a more representative candidate population for the IAB and IESG. > > >Except that the IESG members select the wg chairs, which makes your baseline >stastistic suspect; it's too easy for all sorts of biasing factors to sway the >allocation of wg chair positions.
A couple of points: Actually, I don't think this is even a mostly correct statement - that AD select chairs. I believe that most chairs are self-selected [e.g. hey AD, I want to run a BOF on this topic with the idea of forming a working group - here's the other person who might chair, what do you think? Sure - go ahead, we may twiddle with things a bit at charter formation, but you look like you know what you're doing]. With one exception (where I was asked to chair an evaluation panel), that's been my experience. Would you have evidence to the contrary? Second point: You ignored most of the post and went directly to my last question - 'If there is no statistical difference between the IAB/IESG and the WG chair set, should we then consider the relationship between the IETF attending constituency and the WG chair set?" Say the average meeting had 1500 attendees. 7.4% would suggest that there are 111 female attendees. If the actual number is higher or lower it MAY represent a statistically significant difference in the composition of the two groups. Or it may not. And even then, may only have a very indirect impact in the composition of the IAB/IESG. Care to do the analysis? Later, Mike >d/ > >-- >Dave Crocker >Brandenburg InternetWorking >bbiw.net