On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, guy keren wrote:

>
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>
> > > What we don't have now but need desperately:
> > > * Support for Logical Hebrew. (possibly with still enabling Visual Heb
> > > posts).
> >
> > What do you mean? Present everything in visual Hebrew?
> >
> > What will be the language of the site?
> >
> > English or Hebrew?
>
> english. english. just _allow_ having hebrew content, but don't make all
> the interface in hebrew.
>

Agreed. The site should be functional on browsers that do not support
Hebrew, either visual or logical.

> > If Hebrew: Visual or logical?
>
> visual, visual. i want to be able to still look at the site with lynx ;)
>

Guy, you should be able to look at the site and operate it even if it were
logical Hebrew. After all, the interface and some of the postings would be
in English. However, sticking to Visual Hebrew will unnecessarily
complicate the code, so I don't think it's a high priority.

Most modern browsers support Logical Hebrew very well. I don't know about
lynx, but like I said, I would not recommend anyone to interact with the
Hebrew posts with lynx.

> > Viewing and presenting English is easier (both on the client side and on
> > the server side), but yet we are in Israel despite the Intifada, taxes,
> > Hebrew, and all ;-)
>
> doesn't mean we have to do it in hebrew. and we also have non-hebrew
> speaking people who seem to use the site.
>

The site's interface, boxes, etc. should not be in Hebrew. Or at least
have an option to toggle between an English interface or a Hebrew one.
(with a link on top saying "Hebrew IFace".)

> > If Hebrew is chosen as the language then we can try to convert the content
> > (at the server side, before presenting it) to visual Hebrew. This is the
> > was haayal.co.il, haaratz.co.il and many other sites work. But this
> > requires nore work for the programmer, and the result is more problematic
> > (line breaks, anybody?), so I believe that this is not the path to take.
> >
> > I believe that the content of the site should be in logical Hebrew. Even
> > if it means that some people hebrew will have trouble reading this site.
>
> oh, please, don't. visual hebrew is here to stay! :)
>

I beg your pardon? Visual Hebrew is an inherently broken "standard",
which never makes too much sense. It will complicate the code, and make
for annoying bugs at the user-end. I say that we first implement logical
Hebrew, and only then, if at all support Visual one. Guy - make your
choice of Mozilla, Netscape 6.x, Konqueror, MSIE and perhaps some other
browsers that I'm not aware of.

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish


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