On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Narendra Sisodiya < [email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan <[email protected]>wrote: > >> On 09/01/2010 10:05 AM, gajendra khanna wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>>> Me Lord, Point to be noted, I object, >>>> This is where the problem exist. You tells , You explained., Wiki >>>> explains, >>>> 100 blogs explains, Google search explains... >>>> Why cannot you think in a simplistic way... where User can explain to >>>> himself. If you ask the best way THE USER like then I would say >>>> Users must be asked for Drop drown menu (to select, facebook, >>>> googlechat, >>>> yahoo etc) >>>> Then Username/email and password nothing else. Software is meant to keep >>>> complexity. Think like meebo.. Any Interface which ask other then these >>>> things is "very very very bad" >>>> If we can customize Linux in the way USER want and USER like then we can >>>> win >>>> the game. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> other non-geeky very new users who just migrated from windows the same >>>>> thing and they were able to configure it successfully in the first >>>>> attempt. >>>>> >>>> >>> XMPP compliance is a new introduction to facebook chat. >>> Pidgin should gradually introduce Facebook as an option. Similar was >>> the case with gtalk as well. Initially it was configured with xmpp and >>> now gtalk appears as an option in new versions of pidgin. >>> G >>> >>> >> File a bug report in their list. :-) >> >> @Narendra, you ignored the rest part of my second paragraph lol. >> I told you, with the same explanation they were able to configure it in >> the first attempt. > > > I commented on these two lines itself. perhaps you are not trying to listen > me or taking it offensive. I am making a general example. > This is what the problem is Linux and you. > My question was this. If you were not there for explaining the > configuration , will they be able to do it themself. How much time they > would have needed to apply the settings. > Compare this with any window based facebook software. > > Today my brother took unable to start the a torrent in Vuze. It was it downloading tab. I checked the options but I am unable to figure out how to start downloading. looking 5 times in right click menu I clicked on "Queue". It started. Why the hell the developer of Vuze have in their mind. Why the hell they have not wrote it as "Start" Or "Start Downloading". Please do not click the reply button to say - "file bug" I can any way files bugs and develop software. I am not wasting my time anyway. I am applying it somewhere in some other contribution or advocacy. Point here is if you develop a FOSS software then you represent FOSS community is someway. Now the first impression about the Comfortability/Usability gave a wrong impression on whole community itself.. My brother use to say,, -- "Kya yaar bhaiya, kon si cheej pakda di hai, samajh hi nahi aata hai, bahut se software chalte hi nahi hai" Point here is not blaming Linux is bad. Linux Distro are far superior then windows and has no comparison but when it comes to usability aspect, Linux distros are very poor in this context. If nilesh was not there at friends house, his friend would have used Internet. they would have searched in Internet and after going 10 url/links they might not got the proper solution of XMPP settings for facebook. Pidgin is most popular application for chat in Linux, And Facebook is biggest social chat platform from last 1-2 years ago. Why the hell pidgin developer have not use Facebook Dropdown menu. If we all need to feed same port and same server then why cannot they feed at coding time itself as variable[s] etc. Their drop down list include so many unknown chat services. They have added Google Chat in Drop down but when a normal human being try to add account then he has to feed Username - Domain - (prefilled as gmail.com good) Password - *Resource -* What the F******. I am temped to become angry and use this type of language. What Piding developer understand by themself? any user who is adding first time account for google talk has no clue about what the hell is Resource - I always use browser interface for google talk but when I tried to add account in pidgin, I was forced to make a Google search on "how to add google talk account in pidgin" , What the hell is this, I am using Linux from last 5 years and still I need google to find how my system works??? After few search, I figured out, Resource = /Home, But they can pre-filll it by themself ?. It might take 50 minute for me to download the source code , make changes , report bug , submit patch but WHY I should do it when pidgin developer would have added this. The problem is Linux world is , Linux world is driven by the techies who becomes expert after 100000 hour Google search and then think that these things are obvious, they never care about the usability aspects. Why cannot they understand the most simple logic that "first impression is most important and simplicity always win" I request all of you to post all small small problem which user[you] faces. We will resolve them in SchoolOS. -- ┌─────────────────────────┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─────────────────────────┘ -- l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm
