Its commonly pointed out as a flaw- lack of proper documentation & manuals
On 9/2/10, Nilesh Govindarajan <[email protected]> wrote: > On 09/02/2010 12:09 AM, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Narendra Sisodiya >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> On 09/01/2010 10:05 AM, gajendra khanna wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> Me Lord, Point to be noted, I object, >> This is where the problem exist. You tells , You >> explained., Wiki explains, >> 100 blogs explains, Google search explains... >> Why cannot you think in a simplistic way... where User >> can explain to >> himself. If you ask the best way THE USER like then I >> would say >> Users must be asked for Drop drown menu (to select, >> facebook, googlechat, >> yahoo etc) >> Then Username/email and password nothing else. Software >> is meant to keep >> complexity. Think like meebo.. Any Interface which ask >> other then these >> things is "very very very bad" >> If we can customize Linux in the way USER want and USER >> like then we can win >> the game. >> >> >> >> other non-geeky very new users who just migrated >> from windows the same >> thing and they were able to configure it >> successfully in the first attempt. >> >> >> XMPP compliance is a new introduction to facebook chat. >> Pidgin should gradually introduce Facebook as an option. >> Similar was >> the case with gtalk as well. Initially it was configured >> with xmpp and >> now gtalk appears as an option in new versions of pidgin. >> G >> >> >> File a bug report in their list. :-) >> >> @Narendra, you ignored the rest part of my second paragraph lol. >> I told you, with the same explanation they were able to >> configure it in the first attempt. >> >> >> I commented on these two lines itself. perhaps you are not trying to >> listen me or taking it offensive. I am making a general example. >> This is what the problem is Linux and you. >> My question was this. If you were not there for explaining the >> configuration , will they be able to do it themself. How much time >> they would have needed to apply the settings. >> Compare this with any window based facebook software. >> >> >> Today my brother took unable to start the a torrent in Vuze. It was it >> downloading tab. I checked the options but I am unable to figure out how >> to start downloading. looking 5 times in right click menu I clicked on >> "Queue". It started. Why the hell the developer of Vuze have in their >> mind. Why the hell they have not wrote it as "Start" Or "Start >> Downloading". >> Please do not click the reply button to say - "file bug" >> I can any way files bugs and develop software. I am not wasting my time >> anyway. I am applying it somewhere in some other contribution or advocacy. >> Point here is if you develop a FOSS software then you represent FOSS >> community is someway. Now the first impression about the >> Comfortability/Usability gave a wrong impression on whole community >> itself.. >> >> My brother use to say,, -- "Kya yaar bhaiya, kon si cheej pakda di hai, >> samajh hi nahi aata hai, bahut se software chalte hi nahi hai" Point >> here is not blaming Linux is bad. Linux Distro are far superior then >> windows and has no comparison but when it comes to usability aspect, >> Linux distros are very poor in this context. >> >> If nilesh was not there at friends house, his friend would have used >> Internet. they would have searched in Internet and after going 10 >> url/links they might not got the proper solution of XMPP settings for >> facebook. >> >> Pidgin is most popular application for chat in Linux, And Facebook is >> biggest social chat platform from last 1-2 years ago. Why the hell >> pidgin developer have not use Facebook Dropdown menu. If we all need to >> feed same port and same server then why cannot they feed at coding time >> itself as variable[s] etc. >> >> Their drop down list include so many unknown chat services. >> >> They have added Google Chat in Drop down but when a normal human being >> try to add account then he has to feed >> Username - >> Domain - (prefilled as gmail.com <http://gmail.com> good) >> Password - >> *Resource -* >> >> What the F******. I am temped to become angry and use this type of >> language. What Piding developer understand by themself? any user who is >> adding first time account for google talk has no clue about what the >> hell is Resource - I always use browser interface for google talk but >> when I tried to add account in pidgin, I was forced to make a Google >> search on "how to add google talk account in pidgin" , What the hell is >> this, I am using Linux from last 5 years and still I need google to find >> how my system works??? >> After few search, I figured out, Resource = /Home, But they can >> pre-filll it by themself ?. >> It might take 50 minute for me to download the source code , make >> changes , report bug , submit patch but WHY I should do it when pidgin >> developer would have added this. >> >> The problem is Linux world is , Linux world is driven by the techies who >> becomes expert after 100000 hour Google search and then think that these >> things are obvious, they never care about the usability aspects. Why >> cannot they understand the most simple logic that "first impression is >> most important and simplicity always win" >> >> >> I request all of you to post all small small problem which user[you] >> faces. We will resolve them in SchoolOS. >> >> >> >> -- >> ┌─────────────────────────┐ >> │ Narendra Sisodiya >> │ http://narendrasisodiya.com >> └─────────────────────────┘ >> >> -- >> l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm > > Both points excellently said ;) > I agree with that. > Pidgin should include a menu entry for it. > > -- > Regards, > Nilesh Govindarajan > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nilesh.gr > Twitter: http://twitter.com/nileshgr > Website: http://www.itech7.com > VPS Hosting: http://www.itech7.com/a/vps > > -- > l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm > -- l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm
