On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 15:50 +0530, Phani Bhushan Tholeti wrote: > > Guys you are using Google services, and most people seem to have > gmail > > account with which they interact. Google thinks top posting is the > way to > > go. The tools are also trimmed accordingly (although the latest > clients do > > allow you to trim, that's not the default behavior. > > Precisely.
not so, I first started using linux with pine mail client in 1995. Since then, every mail client I have used has the option of positioning the cursor at the bottom of the quoted matter, and if I recall correctly kmail among others has this as the default. > > > The only reason people top post is that that is the default behavior > of most email clients > > (including Thunderbird). You seem to go against the flow and think > somehow > > your way is the best way. there are 3 reasons why people top post: 1. They have not been trained to post properly - most common case. 2. They are lazy - next most common case. 3. They deliberately top post to try and prove that their opinion is superior to the collective wisdom of 30-40 years of open source mailing list practices. > > Wish these were my words... I somehow feel that most Unix users tend > to think in the time frame of the > 70s... with vi, ed and command line. The command line is powerful, but > using a GUI isn't a sin if it helps you. if this was really true, how come all linux distros come with fancier and fancier GUIs? Or are all these things written by microsoft to corrupt linux users? To see the rest of my comments please scroll down. > Over time, people gravitate towards the command line. Happened with me > and most that I know, among those who switched to Linux. > But, there's really no point trying to push it. We might be just > alienating people. And the argument that "linux" doesn't need such > users is stupid. Ubuntu. > > > > > Be better with content and lenient with people. I cannot see how the > mailing > > list was having any problems by going this way this time. > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Phani Bhushan Tholeti > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> >> we want neither top posting nor bottom posting - both > are bad. > >> >> We need > >> >> properly trimmed *interleaved* posting. > >> > >> Very true. > >> > >> >> But sometimes its not easy to trim messages while replying > especially > >> >> when you are using phone. > >> > >> Even more truer. > >> > >> > anything worth doing is worth doing well - and doing something > well is > >> > sometimes not easy. LUGs are supposed to be training grounds for > newbies > >> > to interact with the world. Every time I see the sloppy way our > >> > youngsters post on international mailing lists I cringe. > >> > >> Its true that *nix has a a rich culture... but a culture only by > >> adapting not by forcing adherence > >> I think we need to evolve a new method.. I am not sure how/why.. > but > >> "cringing" may not help. > >> For starters, maybe we can cut some slack o phone users? Those > using > >> PCs/laptops must still follow > >> whatever is decided. After all if something is inconvenient, it > >> shouldn't survive. > >> > >> Given all that, I'd prefer he interleaved posting :) . > >> > >> -- > >> Lots o' Luv, > >> Phani Bhushan > >> > >> Let not your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right - > >> Isaac Asimov (Salvor Hardin in Foundation and Empire) > >> > >> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > >> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > >> > >> -- > >> Mailing list guidelines and other related articles: > >> http://lug-iitd.org/Footer > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Debasish Ray Chawdhuri > > http://www.geekyarticles.com/ > > [A collection of advanced articles on java] > > > > > > -- > > Mailing list guidelines and other related articles: > > http://lug-iitd.org/Footer > > > > -- > Lots o' Luv, > Phani Bhushan > > Let not your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right - > Isaac Asimov (Salvor Hardin in Foundation and Empire) > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > -- > Mailing list guidelines and other related articles: > http://lug-iitd.org/Footer > > all this unnecessary untrimmed stuff above just contributes to global warming, not to the discussion. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves -- Mailing list guidelines and other related articles: http://lug-iitd.org/Footer
