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From: "Russell McOrmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 12:40 AM
Subject: [ilug-cal] Not-a-Guru, Republic Day Linux and the current battle,
Cypherpunks-India
>
> It was great to meet with Indranil, Shanker and Soumit last week while I
> was in Calcutta. Great to put faces to the names I have been reading.
The Pleasure was all ours!
> When it came to politics,the GPL, validity of Intellectual property (and
> whether the "American Dream" of owning something big and living off of
> royalties applies to more than a few hundred people worldwide, none of
> which will live in India...), then I am in my element.
> Shanker,
>
> Noticed your note onthe 2.4.0 kernel. Guess they didn't wait til
> Republic day this time:
> http://russell.flora.org/india/republic-linux.html
By the time the first lot of fixes come in , 2.4.1 should make it on the
26Th again! Remember there were at least a couple of weeks to a month in
between every test release and the final patch came almost immediately after
the prefinal patch- so to make up - 2.4.1 should be the first real 2.4
series work kernel.
> Since writing that page in January 1999 I believe even stronger that
> there is a battle for independance being fought in India in relation to
> the new post-industrial economy and the Western (primarily US Intellectual
> Property/Monopoly owners) attempt to own it. Fighting against Bio-piracy
> and other forms of Intellectual Monopoly is as important to the
> independance of India (and other countries) as the historical dates that
> Independance Day and Republic day represent.
>
>
> Some thoughts to spawn a debate: I don't think a "VI vs Emacs" would be
> all that interesting to anyone ;-)
Better suited to LIG!:-)
> "Capitalism and Communism, as we have seen implimented, both have the
> same fatal flaw: they both give rewards/payment to people who do not have
> to contribute or otherwise earn it". In this I suggest that payment by
> royalty or rent (IE: payment based on property, intellecual or otherwise)
> is about as legitimate way to "earn a living" than winning the lottery.
However, exceptions do exist - RSA for example. However, a period of a
couple of years should be enough- not the ludicrous 20 years + that is
current! IIRC during the 80's a manufacturing company as large as TI made
more from royalties than the stuff they made!
> The GPL, contrary to those who want to place it under communism,
> represents an opposition to both of these political systems. It assumes
> that people need to earn their money in a free market of services, not in
> a protectionist property/product based system.
> Careful talking about Free Markets to Westerners as most have never
> experienced a market leave alone a liberated one. We here have this
> concept called a "Supermarket" where multiple chain stores have
> fixed-prices set centrally (IE: There is an Office in Toronto that sets
> food prices for all of the thousands of Lablaws stores throughout Canada).
> Even the western stock market has considerable government protection and
> bailouts and thus is not a true Free Market.
In Hindi , there is a saying- "Jiski Lathi uski Bhayis" - loosely
translated- might is right- . The concept of a centrally controlled
supermarket is as good a free market as the East India Company was- .....
> Happy New Year!!
>
And a very happy millenium to you !
> And forwarded at the end is a final FYI for anyone who didn't already
> know.
Grrrr! Had it already in LIG ! :-)
Shanker
> Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: <http://russell.flora.org/work/>
> Back in Ottawa and catching up on Email from after trip to India.
> Replies to some email may be slow.
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:02:20 -0500
> From: Richard Guy Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Russell McOrmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: <nettime> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Announcing
> Cypherpunks-India]]
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