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From: Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ilug-cal] Re: [FLAMEBAIT] open source or free


> I repeat - as written in fsf.org
>
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hmm .. it IS a point of view .. and in keeping with my general
attitude and approach .. i do respect all points of view .. each
to his own .. so this is understandable .. but in the context of
participating in compass or boi mela .. our beliefs, like our
religions, political leanings, castes, origins, postures and
stances certainly need not PREVENT us from participating in those
events .. if one does want to make a point, make a statement,
make a declaration, make an attitude known, shd it prevent one
from participating in such an event ? on whatever pretext ?

as i say so very often .. each to his own .. but in ilug-cal,
personal things have to take a back seat .. we are all here just
because we are keen to see linux being propogated in and around
calcutta .. or am i wrong ? .. and participations in compass/boi
mela/etc are just steps in that direction .. its entirely upto
each person to take or not take the step .. no one is forcing
anyone .. its purely a volunteered effort .. what's in it for me
anyway ?


> regarding Bangla in GNU/Linux, anyone can demo it

yes .. anyone can DEMO it .. but the one who spent hours and days
is the bestone to not only DEMO it .. but also discuss it,
elucidate it, AND most importantly .. take the well deserved
credit for it ! and we would be standing besides THATone and
nodding our wise heads too ;-D

> why the hell should we oppose that -

ouch (.. crouching) ..


> let them call whomever they want
> it was just a suggestion - that for talks on general advocacy
rms would
> be a better choice

repeating again .. its not for us to 'let them' .. its for them
to 'let' us do what we want .. its THEIR show, remember ? ..
suggestions are always welcome .. but when OTHER organisations
are co-operating and helping ilug-cal .. its wiser to not suggest
.. and maybe its wiser to just go along ..

> well, me not sure if i will be able to attend that - i have my
SAT II
> next week :S
> may turn up - but not very sure


good luck for SAT II .. it will sure be good if you ARE there too
.. helpful to crystallise our participation .. esp the work you
have done .. we have absolutely no time .. this compass show will
be a mega event, the like of which has not been seen in calcutta
.. it is gonna take up the indoor stadium, the khudiram kendra,
sangam hall, ice skating rink AND YET its not enough .. there is
demand for more stalls to be put up ..

with my experience in holding microfairs in ice skating rink, i
shudder to think of the enormous amount of work involved in
pulling off such a large event with even a modest target of
acceptance, far less a high level of sucess .. it CAN be done
with maybe 100+ very hard working volunteers !


> -sdg-
>
> PS: to clarify my stand - i suggest that all read
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html
> - i am having a feeling that a lot of this hulla has been
solely due to
> misunderstanding and lack of information (the latter mostly...)

no 'hulla' here .. just clear talk .. this is not a meeting,
remember .. this is very serious business .. of committing and
getting commitments .. between compass, which has snowballed into
a huge setup .. and ilug-cal .. which is spearheading the linux
movement in eastern india .. it IS very important and surely
needed that this joint approach start off without much clamour ..
smoothly, nicely, in as much of a harmony as possible, and most
importantly : get some results .. towards our oft repeated and
avowed policy of propogating linux in and around calcutta

and no, this hulla is not 'solely' due to 'm & l-o-i' .. its
'morely' due to the need for getting all tuned to the wave length
of fair and expo participation .. where a lot of dovetailing is a
necessity rather than an option .. hence the need for all to
march in step .. and fight ignorance, lack of resources, etc AND
be victorious in that effort .. battles and wars cannot be won
without the entire force working towards a common objective ..

AND GUYS .. make no mistake .. the war of dispelling ignorance
among our people (of which linux awareness is an important part),
is much bigger than all wars put together .. conquering lands is
easy .. conquering the ignorance in the minds of our fellow
kolkatans and WBs .. even to begin thinking about it apalls me ..
yet i go on .. and on .. and on..
it might happen, you know !

..pk




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