hello rajib

ease off .. being vitriolic in public on endeavouring young boys
will only leave scars .. and homing on anirban .. nope .. many
KNOW him .. and have a fair idea of his dedication, willingness,
readiness for hard work .. so don't go after him .. please

if you are senior, guide him .. if equal, support him .. if
junior, learn from him

don't hurt people's feelings .. please

suggest .. don't criticise

do .. don't guide

act .. don't react

attend . don't absent .. from meetings ..

and join the working force .. 'frying pan' .. ;-D

..pk

(abt spellings, grammar etc .. it would be proper to have proper
language
 but its more proper to properly do things than only properly
tell .. never mind the language .. look at the intent .. swami
ramakrishna never even went to a school .. and his language was
not all that grammatical)

[request to all members .. this is to be a nice, good, friendly
list for propogation of linux .. not for soo much cross firing (i
too must abstain .. sooo difficult) .. so cease fire .. all of
you .. and let's get down to the serious business of businesslike
conducting of lug affairs]


----- Original Message -----
From: Rajib Debnath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ilug-cal] About Meeting in HIT


> Anirban Biswas, presumably one of the meeting committee
members, wrote thus
> [please check the spellings at least before you post]: [how
come he was involved
> when the *official* decision was given to Sumeet Moghe is a
mystery wrapped in
> an enigma!]
>
> > Hi , all
> <snip>
> > I am telling what happened acctually .
>
> <good at last someone at the stand>
>
> > The first problem was the estimation of how much member will
turn up , as
> > Indra da said in the last cancled meeting there was about 30
to 40 people
>
> sumeet is now asking for a smaller hall. sheer stupidity. if
the list members
> are actually >250 and even 20% turn up then calculate for
yourself how many you
> need to provision for.
>
> <snip>
>
> > but Mr Ghosh & Anirban Dutta (AD)
> > completely misunderstand it they though that we are giving
seminar even when
> > we clearly mentioned meeting & also they told that we should
allow their
> > student to attentit else they will not provide the hall &
h/w. In fact AD
> > asked ( or you may say command us ) to have some techno talks
like
> > instaaltion & help him with SAMBA & little bit of programming
with PHP so we
> > made the sechudle that way.
>
> what/who in hell's name gave you the permission to short sell
the LUG like you
> did ? sure the LUG should involve itself more in lecture
demonstrations/seminars
> and what have you but this borders on either sheer ignorance or
devious greed
> for meeting space and self gratification. the LUG i believe was
never there to
> be *utilized* by institutions it is a quid pro quo and that is
all. understand
> that and things will be clearer. and if such an ungodly
situation was forced
> down your throats without your consent - why was the mailing
list not used
> to enlighten everyone ?
>
> *command us* ?? and pray how/why did you let yourself walk down
the garden path
> ?
>
> > We though that the techno part will be over with in 4:30 to
5:00 then we will
> > discuss our problems (since we told them we will be there
till 6:30 ) but
> > here also they resquested us to leave after 5:30.
>
> *we thought* but your listed agenda clearly spells otherwise.
own up to your
> tomfoolery young man. you/the LUG were never in control and
that is the sad
> fallout of the scenario
>
> > Also we do not excepted that so much student will trun up in
satur day which
> > also become a problem.
>
> come again !! sumeet's mail *warned* of a sizeable student
turnout. at an instt
> of tech what is sizeable to you ? 12 ? and when you had such
background
> information there is no reason to act coy and cute. either you
are not telling
> the truth now or you are as confused as what sidhu said of deep
dasgupta
>
> > >From our part we told them that it is a LUG meeting & have
techno  part in it
> > which can be attened by their studnet but they though it as
seminar & so
> > recducing the time limite caauses all the problems.
>
> actually what caused all the problem was you 3 keeping the
cards close to your
> chest and not informing anyone of this. if the time limit was
so low, why were
> the speakers not informed ? clearly this reeks of lack of
transparency, self
> interests and ego boosts.
>
> > Also for h/w we got same h/w for COMPASS & if Atul was not
here we could not
> > applied the patch so h/ws also not disccused completely long
before we got
> > the m/cs but at the run time.
>
> if you had learnt a lesson from the infamous *glly* scene at
COMPASS then i
> suppose you would have taken precautions given the information
that commonly
> available and highest selling motherboards are of the
Intel845GLLY variety. Atul
> being available saved the day, but the knowledge and expertise
he left for us
> seems to have been under/unutilized - i hope you will agree !!
>
> > Also we have to use HIT since no other member able to arrenge
alternative
> > venues since we alway posted what we are doing & so every one
know in advance
> > where the next meeting will.
>
> the meeting coordinator/convener arranges for the venue. get
this straight. *no
> other member* is washing your hands off the matter. if you
can't stand the heat
> get off the frying pan. don't go griping like a silly 3 year
old. you are mature
> enough to understand and realize that between the 3 of you, you
have made a
> royal mess. own up, take lessons, and get on with it. whining
is going to earn
> you brickbats. there was no coordination/communication and
transparency there
> was no provision for FSF donation also.
>
> so whither now ilug-kolkata ?
>
> rajib debnath
>
> ps : for the love of god, when you need to send mails check
your spellings if
> not the sentence construction. i believe that is the least you
can do.
>
>
>
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